Over the last few weeks, we have talked about DC’s 1985 Crisis on Infinite Earths miniseries and how it retconned their multiverse into a single universe.
DC’s new single Earth universe would remain this way through several crossover events and one more crisis, Zero Hour: Crisis in Time. It will not be until the year 2000 when writer Grant Morrison and artist Frank Quitely would introduce the concept of multiple Earths again with the stand alone comic, JLA Earth 2
I just want to talk about these covers for a second. Frank Quitely is a fantastic artist and he creates some amazing perspectives. I love how he literally has the mirror image of the JLA and CSA on these covers. The interiors are great too.
In this comic, we are reintroduced to The Crime Syndicate of Amerika who are now on the anti-matter world of Earth 2. Prior to Crisis on Infinite Earths, these villains were known as The Crime Syndicate of America and they resided on Earth 3.
As I mentioned in the podcast, the 1960 Earth 3 Owlman looks dumb. He looks like a man wearing a owl hat. How is anyone supposed to be intimidated by that? But the 2000 update by Morrison and Quitely is as scary as the original Batman!
Besides the amazing updates to all the costumes, Morrison and Quitely weave a compelling tale about what happens when a team that believes in truth and justice cross over to a world of pure evil. They explore Good vs Evil and show that these 2 concepts aren’t always black and white.
We also go over some of the real world events that happened back in 2000 and some of the history for the Justice League of America from 1985 – 2000.
Last year the CW shows (Arrow, Flash, Supergirl and Heroes of Tomorrow) did a crossover event – Elseworlds. At the end of the crossover, they teased their next crossover with this static image:
We were like “Are they actually going to do this? This story? On the CW shows?!!”
The original, seminal comic miniseries Crisis on Infinite Earths came out in 1985 and it was one of the first “maxiseries – anything over 6 issues”. It was an epic tale and was a huge undertaking for the writer and artist. In this case:
Writer – Marv Wolfman
Artist – George Perez
Not only did these 2 creators tell a tale that spans dozens of worlds, with hundreds of characters over millions of years but it also served a purpose of realigning the DC universe to streamline it for new readers without alienation long time fans. It accomplishes both by the twelfth issue.
Here are some of the covers of the original miniseries:
In this week’s podcast, Jon and I go over the history of why Crisis on Infinite Earths was necessary to clean up continuity. We talk about our own histories on how we discovered the comic. We talk about the story and characters.
We can’t really say there are spoilers since this story is 35 years old and the basis on future Crisis events like Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis. In fact, all the plot twist that happened in this series have pretty much been retconned 3 or 4 times now.
Join us next week for the conclusion of our discussion on Crisis on Infinite Earths!
Back in 2017, I saw a trade paperback for a books called Sugar & Spike: Metahuman Investigations. The cover looked interesting but what caught my eye was the writer – Keith Giffen.
Keith Giffen is a well known writer and artist that has worked on high profile books like Legion of Superheroes and JLA. He is one of my favorite writers because he loves to inject humor in his projects. The 80s JLA is a great example of telling superhero stories with humor instead of the normal grim and gritty style that was popular at the time.
I wasn’t too familiar with the artist Bilquis Evely but I looked at a few pages and really liked her style for this book so I immediately picked it up.
Now, you may not be too familiar with the titular duo and that is okay. These characters were created back in the 50s by writer and artist Sheldon Mayer. They were originally baby characters that were in a funny book. Here is an example of Mayer’s version of Sugar & Spike:
In the podcast, Jon and I go through Sugar & Spike’s cases and we point out that all of their cases are based on silly DC silver age story lines and Giffen pays homage to these classics. One of the pages of the comic references the exact comics:
We both highly recommend this book for the art and humorous story. Jon mentions that this book reminded him of the old Moonlighting show and that is a great example of why this book works: a pair of opposites begrudgingly work together to solve crimes while knocking each other down a peg.
There probably will never be a sequel or follow up so I will just have to enjoy what I have and re-read it again.
Heroes in Crisis is the new 9 issue miniseries by writer Tom King and artist Clay Mann.
It is published by DC and it is their 2018 event comic. How do I know it’s an Event Comic? Well, it does have “Crisis” right there in the title. I mean, that’s a dead give away right there, man. C’mon! Do you even comic book?
Enough of that silliness, let’s get back to serious business – talking about comic books! Jon and I had the opportunity to read the first issue of Heroes in Crisis that came out this past Wednesday and we decided to give it a review on the podcast but also take some guesses as to who is the murder. What? You didn’t know it was a murder mystery? Yep. There are many murders in this book and it was a hero that did it? (Or was it?)
Okay. Before we go too much further in the plot, let me just say right here:
THERE WILL BE SPOILERS IN THIS PODCAST!
Now, it’s just the first issue so I don’t know how much we can actually be spoiling but we do take some “stabs” at guessing who ultimately is responsible for the deaths at Sanctuary.
First Spoiler: There are 2 suspects that the reader is given at the end of the issue…
I know exactly what you are thinking: “Who is Booster Gold?” or “Hell Yeah, it’s Harley Quinn!” Both are valid points. Listen to the podcast and we give our opinions on who really is responsible for the murders. It just might change your opinion! We also go over a quick history of Booster Gold for those that need a refresher.
Heroes In Crisis is starting off with a bang (and a stab)! We look forward to the rest of the series. Also, if you want to know why “Crisis” is DC’s event brand, you should really listen to Podcast 132: CW’s Crossover Event: Crisis on Earth-X. I rundown all the related Crisis titles DC has published.
Superman Annual #11? That’s specific and yet random for a Comics Misremembered Podcast. Why are we talking about this one?
Glad you asked. Last podcast (159), I started to talk about Action Comics issue #1000 and I felt that it was a missed opportunity to tell a tale involving Superman to celebrate his life but also give new readers a little history on the character. It was a good issue but not a great issue. The stories did not live up to the milestone that Action Comics achieved, in my humble opinion.
Then I remembered reading Superman Annual #11 that came out in 1985. It was written by Alan Moore with art by Dave Gibbons (the creative team behind The Watchmen) and I remembered how much I liked that story.
Jon never read the comic, which is also know as “For The Man Who Has Everything“, so he read it and I reread it and we decided to talk about it and then start breaking it down as to why it is a great story. We also elaborate on why a story like this would be a great introduction to new Superman readers (even today).
We then breakdown how Alan Moore took stories that were happening in politics in the real world in 1985 and used this story as an allegory for Krypton. The messages Moore was trying to get across in the story are as relevant today as they will be for years to come.
Listen to the podcast and do yourself a favor and get a copy of this annual to read.
In our last New Comics Review, we did mostly independent titles so we decided to do some Marvel and DC new comics this time around.
There are 4 reviews this week and here are the titles:
Writer Jason Aaron with Artist Ed McGuinness for Avengers #1 (Jim review)
Writer Charles Soule with Artist David Marquez and Paulo Siqueira for Hunt for Wolverine (Jon review)
Writer Tom Taylor with Artist R. B. Silva for Adamantium Agenda (Jon review)
Writers Joshua Williamson, James Tynion and Scott Snyder with Artist Francis Manapul for Justice League: No Justice (miniseries) (Jim review)
The downside of some of these books is that Marvel and DC are renumbering their flagship titles again (Marvel’s Avengers #1 and DC will relaunch Justice League at the end of No Justice as a #1) but the creators on these books and the stories that they are telling make this change a little easier to swallow.
The upside is that Avengers #1 is a great starting point for non-comic readers who saw Avengers: Infinity War and want a jumping on point for the comics. Same thing for Justice League: No Justice. Both books introduce you to the core members of each team and show you what else is hiding in the shadows of their perspective universes.
The Wolverine books bring you up to speed on what has happen to Wolverine since the evens of Death of Wolverine and Legacy. These books bring back familiar faces of villains and heroes of the mutant universe.
Jon and I were both very excited about the books we picked and hope that you find some new reading material.
PS – Sorry to Justice League: No Justice – I referred to the enemy characters as “Doom Titans” but they are actually called “Omega Titans“. That’s why we call the podcast Comics Misremembered.
There is a war going on in comics and it isn’t Secret. It’s not necessarily a Crisis either. But it is a war that is being waged with dairy products. It will be known as The Milk Wars (we mistakenly call it the Milkman Wars in the podcast).
The Milk Wars are a cross comic event between DC’s Young Animals imprint and the New 52. Gerard Way (Doom Patrol) and Steve Orlando (Justice League of America) are the creators of this event. There will be 5 one shot comics that will be released in February 2018 that support it.
The first salvo in the Milk Wars is The Doom Patrol/Justice League of America one shot. It is written by Gerard Way and Steve Orlando and the art was supplied by ACO. Cover by Frank Quitely.
We give a review of this issue in the podcast along with Part 2: Mother Panic/Batman Special written by Jody Houser with art by Ty Templeton.
The war has just started and we are very excited about it. Now is a great time to hop on board the Young Animals brand of comics and read something that is more than super heroes comics.
The DC Cinematic Universe has been building up to this moment and it has arrived! The Justice League movie has finally been released…
If you read the reviews or watched a few review shows, you would have heard most of them say the this movie is garbage. We here at Comics Misremembered would say that is not the case…mostly. The movie has it’s terrible elements (which we cover in the podcast) but it also has some highly enjoyable moments too.
What we are saying is “Don’t Believe the Negative Hype“. This movie is not perfect but it is a very good movie. More so than what the reviewers are saying. Listen to our podcast and see if we can’t convince you.
We also give a quick review on when the Justice League first formed in the comics.
The air starts to feel cooler, the days grow shorter and a butt-load of new shows debut on all the networks. It must be Fall! There are many comic related shows that are out now but Jon and I decided to watch 2 shows we swore we were never going to watch: The Inhumans and The Gifted.
We watched the first episode of both shows, we give an overview of the episode, some pros and cons and finally: will we continue to watch the series. Our answers may surprise you.
We also do a quick recap of the upcoming movie trailers for: Thor Ragnarok, Justice League and The New Mutants.
Welcome back, CM Podcast fans. Jon and I both have this cold that’s been going around so we apologize in advance for the coughs and hope to be back to 100% next week.
I have been reading Nick Spencer’s Steve Rogers: Captain America and really have been enjoying it. It is a controversial story because it has Cap as an Agent of Hydra instead of the Sentinel of Liberty. Time will tell if this will go down as a great story or terrible idea in the annals of history.
This gave me the idea to talk about 3 other controversial stories and how people reacted to them. In this podcast, we review the following:
Identity Crisis (2004)
Ed Brubaker’s Captain America (2005)
The new 52 Launch (2011)
Also, In the podcast Jon speaks to the criticism that DC received on their female characters in the new universe. To give you a visual on how women were portrayed in the new 52 here are 3 examples (left to right): Catwoman, Starfire and Voodoo.
Marvel and DC crossover comic events are very rare nowadays but that was not always the case. In fact, 20 years ago was one of the best Marvel/DC comic events that ever happened and it was called the Amalgam Universe!
These Amalgam comics were the result of a battle between the Marvel and DC universes…
The champions fought each other in a limited series called DC Versus Marvel (or Marvel Versus DC depending on which issue you were buying). The heroes battles each other and it caused such a mess that is smashed the 2 universes together in 1 amalgamated universe.
Jon and I reflect back on the events that lead up to the Amalgam Comics to be published. This will be a 2 part podcast so tune in next week for part 2.
Time is a funny thing. It seems like yesterday I was picking up the first issue of Mark Waid and Alex Ross’ Kingdom Come and I was amazed at the painted artwork and great story.
Well, it was actually 20 years ago this year that I read that first issue. The story and it’s message is still relevant now as it was back then.
Jon has never read Kingdom Come and I recently acquired the collected trade paper back and lent it to him. I told him that he is really going to enjoy it and that we should do a podcast on this landmark series. Jon took the book and when I saw him a few days later, he was very impressed and was really keen on turning this into a podcast.
I am a fan of the book. Jon became a fan of it and we hope you listen to this podcast and give it a try. I am glad that DC gave permission to Mark and Alex to tell this different and dark tale of morality and forgiveness.