The world is in a social crisis. COVID-19 is impacting everyone and we are all worrying about the future. Now seems like the perfect time to talk about a cheery subject – a totalitarian future were everyone’s freedoms are stripped away and there is no hope.
This is not entirely true. The is one hope – one man wages war on a despotic government to overthrow the tyrants and return freedom to the people. Hooray! We are going to be talking about V for Vendetta. A comic by writer Alan Moore and artist David Lloyd. It was originally published as a serial in a UK comic Warrior in 1982. DC converted it into a 10 issue miniseries in 1988.
I have been waiting for the perfect time to talk about this comic and now seems the best time. Jon and I share our history regarding reading this comic.
We talk about the history of the comic coming from Warrior and moving over to DC. The original David Lloyd art was in black and white and DC wanted it to be in color. Normally, this would not be a problem but Lloyd uses Negative Space technique for the black and white images and that will not look great with color. The colorists for the comic get around the problem.
We then get into world history of the UK in the 80s and how that would have a major influence on Moore and Lloyd on the creation of V and how their dystopian society looked.
We then get into talking about the actual comic (but not too much). We go over the first 2 issues. We learn about V, the main protagonist. Evey, a innocent by-stander that gets swept up by accident into V’s terrorist plot and finally, Mr. Adam Susan, face of the fascist regime that is controlling the UK.
This podcast is a great place to start if you have never read V for Vendetta. We don’t talk too much about the comic in this podcast but we are giving you a chance to read it and come back in a week for part 2. Next week, we will get into all of the comic and do a comparison of the movie to the comic.
Some bloopers in the podcast: This is podcast 256, not 258. Alan Moore wrote Swamp Thing not Swamp Men and there are probably a dozen others but I am too tired to address them. This is why it’s called Comics Misremembered.
In the podcast, I promised a link to Superman Annual #11 (Here) AKA “For The Man Who Has Everything”. Moore explores the same themes of nationalism and fascism.
Last week, Jon and I started the discussion of one of Grant Morrison’s most controversial, divisive works – The Filth.
We had so much to say about this 13 issue miniseries that we keep the conversation going from last week. We continue the adventures of Greg Feely/Ned Slade as a member of the secret police called The Filth.
If you missed last weeks discussion, you will see a link for Podcast 179 at the bottom of this post. I highly recommend that you start there and then come back here for the 2nd half.
I made a joke that The Filth was like X-Files but with a perverse twist so you could call it the XXX-Files. That is why you hear the X-Files theme at the start of Podcast 180.
We continue to talk about Ned Slade’s strange cases and then get into the ultimate discovery of what The Filth is and were it comes from.
Jon recently picked up the collected miniseries The Filth by Grant Morrison and Chris Weston. Originally published by DC under the Vertigo imprint in 2002.
I remember reading the original series in issues when it was originally released. It is a bizarre and humorous look at a secret police force that “cleans” away people and things that affect the “Status:Q”.
Here are some of the original covers to the series when it was released as issues. As you can see, the covers are minimalist but don’t really describe what is actually happening in the book. It does grab your eye and make you want to take a peek at what is happening inside…
Those that dared were treated to Chris Weston’s art. I bought the book because Grant Morrison wrote it but Chris’ artwork was icing on the cake.
Jon and I relive the miniseries and try to explain why you should do yourself a favor and read this book. We go through the whole series and try to touch on what we liked (and a few bits that we wished Morrison would have changed).
***WARNING BEFORE YOU LISTEN TO THE PODCAST***
This is an adult comic that deals with adult situation (mostly in a humorous way) so if you have delicate sensibilities, you may not wish to listen to this nor buy the comic. Also, we talk about the whole thing so there will be spoilers in parts 1 this week and part 2 next week.
In the podcast, I promised to show what a Hand agent’s uniformed looked like. I was actually able to pull a good image. Here is Ned Slade – Agent of Hand!
Back in 1993, DC created an imprint called Vertigo which was to feature comics with mature themes. One of the first miniseries to be published under that imprint was Sebastian O.
Sebastian O was written by Grant Morrison with artwork by Steve Yeowell. It was only 3 issues long and it featured a Steampunk Victorian dandy named Sebastian O who was wrongly imprisoned then escapes and seeks vengeance on the people who put him there. It’s a comedy by the way.
I read the original miniseries when it came out but Jon has never read it until now. We’ll let you know if you should read it and if it deserves an ongoing series.
We also give a little history lesson on Vertigo and some of it’s earliest titles. It’s a fun podcast we put together this week to help brace you for the fallout of next week’s Avengers: Infinity War movie podcast.
It was Veteran’s Day last week so we celebrate it a week later with a war comic. War comics were all the rage back in the 50s, 60s and 70s. There were many great characters that came out of that genre like Nick Fury and Sgt Rock but one of the lesser known heroes was The Unknown Soldier.
DC introduced him on the pages of Sgt. Rock and he became so popular that he eventually received his own monthly title in the 70s that ran until 1982.
After that, the Unknown Soldier faded back into DC obscurity until a 1988 12 issue miniseries tried to resurrect him but that did not work.
Then in 1997, Garth Ennis (who likes the old DC war characters) pitched a 4 issue miniseries for but with a more mature storyline so DC picked it up and published it under the Vertigo imprint.
The series continued where World War II left off and put the Unknown Soldier in every clandestine meeting and leading every wet works operation from the 40s up until the present and it was a fun read. It had fantastic interior art by Kilian Plunkett and the covers were done by the incomparable Timothy Bradstreet.
I read the original miniseries when it came out and recently bought the trade. Jon had the opportunity to read it so we decided to give it a glowing review and explain why it’s a great comic for war historians and those that want to take a closer look at the US’s foreign policy since WWII.
Halloween is coming quickly so we wanted to talk about a comic that will scare the bejesus out of you – DC/Vertigo’s Clean Room.
It is written by Gail Simone (Birds of Prey, Batgirl, Secret Six) with art by Jon Davis-Hunt (2000 AD). You may have overlooked this story with it’s initial print run of 18 issues but do yourself a favor and buy the trades. This comic is a real page turner. Once you start to find out what the truth is in the Clean Room universe you may want to stop turning pages but you will dare yourself to continue.
Jon did not read the original run so I gave him the first 6 issues and this is what we cover in the mostly spoiler free podcast. Jon mentioned that there was a creature that was briefly introduced named “Boop” and it gave him nightmares. Here is a picture of that creature:
This is one of the tamer looking monsters in Clean Room and this is what freaked him out. Can you imagine what else you will find? We talk about the series and what we believe are Gail Simone’s influences in the comic.
This comic is great and we cannot recommend it enough.
It is another San Diego Comics Con so that means another round of Eisner Awards. Jon and I love the Eisners because it nominates that best of the best from the comic industry for categories like Best Writer, Best Artist, Best New Series, Best Ongoing series and more.
The award show spotlights comics that you are probably reading and some that were over looked last year. The nominees always makes for great material for a podcast.
Many comics nominated for Eisners were reviewed by us as comics that you should be reading like Saga, Paper Girls, Kill or Be Killed and Vision. There were also some comics that we have read but have not talked about on the podcast yet like Clean Room and Black Hammer. We are looking forward to giving a more in depth review for those.
Great discussion this week. Looking forward to next years crop of comics.
I usually put the podcast link at the top of the page but going forward, I will put it at the bottom of the post. The reason being is that we are back on iTunes! If you want to subscribe to the podcast, here is the direct link:
This week we are going to talk about the Preacher TV show that is now in it’s second season on AMC.
Jon and I both watched the first season but never got around to giving a review of it. We felt now is the perfect time to talk about the show and how we felt the material was handled on screen. Jon and I are both fans of the comic and were very interested in it’s interpretation to the small screen.
After we talk about the show, we make some predictions on how the rest of the second season will play out based on the comic. We try make this part as spoiler free as possible. He do warn everyone that we will be talking about future story arcs. We both predict that Herr Starr will make his entrance during this season. Here is a page from the comic that will show you why Herr Starr is going to me the “Starr” of the show. *wry smile*
Thanks again for supporting and listing to the podcast.
We have done 100 podcasts and this is the start of 100 more!
This week, Jon has read one of the comics that he missed when it originally came out. We discussed this in Comics Misremembered Podcast 95 and that comics is:
by Brian Wood and Riccardo Burchielli
This comic is as relevant today as it was when it was published in 2006. The story is told through the eyes and words of Matty Roth – the only embedded photojournalist in the Manhattan DMZ. Want to know more? Listen to the podcast!
We talk politics and comedy – you will swear you were listening to an episode for Bill Maher’s Real Time or the Daily Show.
What does the title “Missed The Bus” comics mean? It means great comic series that have been published but for what ever reason Jon and/or myself have never read. The alternative title I have for this podcast is “Whats The Matter With You Dummies!?”
Hard to believe that there are some comics that exist out there that Jon or myself have not read. This is a true fact! There are some many comics that exist that we cannot get to all of them so some of the gems get left in the mine. Today, we talk about 3 of those series which are:
DMZ – Vertigo/DC
A Distant Soil – Image Comics
100 Bullets – Vertigo/DC
We talk about why we missed reading them when they were first released, why we want to read them now and is it even possible to read comics that are no longer being published?
Just so you know, I have read DMZ and 100 Bullets. It is only A Distant Soil that we both have not read.
Happy Thanksgiving everyone. I hope you all had a happy and relatively painless Thanksgiving with friends and/or family.
Since it was Thanksgiving this past Thursday, my mind started to wander and think about comics that have a “family” feel to it. Now, I am sure there are many titles that have themes of family and getting together but none do it with as much bloodshed as the mini-series: We3.
We3 was a Vertigo title that was released in 2004 and its written by Grant Morrison with art work by Frank Quitely. This series asks the ultimate question:
We find out the answer to that and other questions like: what does family and belonging mean? Where exactly is home? How many creative ways can you see weaponize pets vivisect humans?
Speaking to that last question, here are some of the scenes that I try to describe in the podcast. All beautifully drawn by Frank Quitely.
After our discussion on We3, we compare the comic to the book and movie Watership Downs and have a quick palaver on how rabbits can teach use to be better humans.
“Remember folks, these images are from a ‘kids’ movie.”
We are going back in time this week – to 2002 to talk about the Brian K. Vaughn’s comic: Y The Last Man published by DC/Vertigo.
This series has been talked about recently because Mike Green, known for producing TV shows like Gotham and Smallville, is thinking about “green lighting” Y The Last Man as it’s own TV series!
The book’s premise is that there is an apocalyptic plague that wipes out most of the the male mammals on the planet. Our main protagonist, Yorick Brown and his companion male monkey are spared from the plague. We follow Yorick through the world to discover why did the plague happen and is he truly – The Last Man.
“Here are the first 3 issues of the series”
I decided to do a quick primer on who are the main characters of the comic and some of the 1st and 2nd story arcs. I recorded the podcast on my own this week because Jon is out of town but he will be back next week.
I think that people who are fans of The Walking Dead TV show will really like this as a show. It has similar themes: Apocalyptic event that impacts the world, people have to rebuild, strong male and female characters, high drama with comedic elements and compelling story.
I hope you enjoy this week’s podcast and hope to see you next week.
Jon and I talk about Preacher this week. We have all seen the trailer on AMC and are very excited for the show. Now let’s go back in time to 1995 – Where people were watching Seinfeld and Friends on TV and the little heroes of Toy Story were making a big splash for a small company called Pixar on the big screen.
In 1995, writer Garth Ennis and artist Steve Dillion premiered the comic Preacher through DC’s Vertigo imprint. Not many people knew what to expect from this comic but they soon grew to love Preacher Jessie Custer, Assassin Tulip and vampire Cassidy. It was a strange and funny ride that lasted 66 issues.
Jon and I read Preacher when it came out in 1995 all the way to it’s ultimate end in 2000. We review our impressions prior to the comic’s release and then what our thoughts are of the characters and situations that arise in the story line (mostly spoiler free) and our hopes for the coming show.
We also make a few movie recommendations to watch prior to watching the show. Start listening now.