Welcome back to Comics Misremembered. This week we are going to talk about a story that people will argue that is Marvel’s greatest story ever. There are others that hold this story in reverence. We may make these people angry with our podcast.
Tonight, we are talking about Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli’s seminal Daredevil story – Born Again. Originally published as Daredevil #227 – 231 in 1986 by Marvel.
I explain in the podcast how I came to buy the trade paper back for Born Again and why we are recording a podcast for it now. In reflection, it seems the perfect time to do a story review for this book.
For those that have never read or even heard of this story, let me give you some of the history. Frank Miller wrote and drew some of the defining moments of Daredevil in the 70s and 80s. He would leave Marvel and work on several Batman stories over at DC.
In 1986, Frank was invited back to write a new storyline for Daredevil to help boost it’s sales. Jim Shooter, editor-in-chief at the time, asked Frank if he would like to take a crack at the Scarlett Swashbuckler again. Frank said he would and so history is made.
Jon and I have never read this story until today. We both are not big Daredevil fans but we are familiar with the character of Matt Murdock and his family of characters. This story is wildly hyped, but does it live up to it? We tell you in the podcast. We also cover the religious symbolism that Miller and Mazzucchelli put into the story.
It’s a great story but one of the greatest? You be the judge. Oh, by the way – SPOILERS WILL BE IN THE PODCAST.
Welcome to Comics Misremembered New Comic Review. Jon and I find 4 titles that have come out in the past few weeks and we make recommendations. Usually these comics are independent titles that you may have missed. All of our recommendations are worth your time and we highly recommend reading them. Let’s get to talking comics this week…
The reviews are like this: Jon starts then I do the next and so on until we review 4 books. Got it! Great. Here is the order…
Wolverine #1 – Jon’s review
Writer: Benjamin Percy
Artists: Adam Kurbert and Viktor Bogdonavic
BANG! #1 – Jim’s review
Writer: Matt Kindt
Artist: Wilfredo Torres
Publisher: Dark Horse Comics
Mirka Andolfo’s Mercy #1 – Jon review
Writer: Mirka Andolfo
Aritst: Mirka Andolfo
Publisher: Image Comic
Tomorrow #1 – Jim review
Writer: Peter Milligan
Artist: Jesus Hervas
Publisher: Dark Horse Comics (Berger Books imprint)
There you have it. 4 great books with glowing reviews. Go pick them up as soon as possible because issue #2 for most of them will be out in a week or 2.
Welcome to a very special edition of Comics Misremembered Podcast. We are celebrating our 250th podcast!! About a week ago I had no idea what we were going to do to honor this milestone.
We started kicking around ideas: Maybe do a countdown of our favorite storylines. We ditched this idea because we figured it would be too similar to past podcasts. Then changed it up to: review a great and celebrated storyline that is often over looked.
This brings us to the topic of this week’s CM Podcast. We will be reviewing the trade paperback of Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle. This is a collection Iron Man Vol.1 #120 – 128. The original story was published by Marvel in 1979.
The creators of this storyline are: Writer/Co-Plotter – David Michelinie, Artist – John Romita, Jr and Inker/Co-Plotter Bob Layton.
The title Demon in a Bottle comes from Iron Man #128 which is the final part of the overall story arc. It also has one of the most recognizable covers of all time created by Bob Layton.
Jon and I have never read this story in it’s original run. We had a great time going over it and we both think it is as relevant today as it was in 1979. I think the reason it is often overlooked on people’s Top Ten lists is because this is only the beginning of Tony Stark’s descent into alcoholism. In this story arc: Bethany Cabe points out that he has a drinking problem, helps him identify the problem and overcome it. Tony seems to have conquered his demons. Or has he?
If you continue reading after #128, Tony’s struggle become worse and he will eventually lose everything to drinking. It will be several years before he turns it all around to become sober and a success again.
It’s a terrific story that shows that no man is an island. You sometimes have more problems than you can handle and it is always a good idea to have your friends and family help you out when times are tough.
We compare Tony Stark of the 70s to how he behaves in the 2020s, we cover the infamous Javis resignation letter and discuss how they tired to use elements of this story in the Iron Man 2 movie to varying degrees of success.
We have reached the end of 2019. It has been another great year for comics. There were plenty of great comic books, comic related shows and movies that we covered here at Comics Misremembered.
Traditionally at the end of the year, most comic podcasts would do a review show of the best of the best comic related books, shows and movies but that’s not what we do here at the Comics Misremembered Podcast.
We like to cover comic related stories that happened through out the year that we thought were funny to us. The topics we cover are either a storyline, a story about a creator or comic company or any comic related tale that we want you to remember again. We called the award show The Hazies – because our memory is a little hazy.
I even went out and bought an actual award. I am not mailing it out to the winners (Sorry). I have been meaning to get one so here it is…
Listen to the podcast to find out who or what won this Hazie for these categories…
Dick Move Hazie
Killing Me Softly With His Love Hazie
Fear of a Female Planet Hazie
I Take My Coffee Black Like My Worldview Hazie
He Put The ‘No’ in Nostalgia Hazie
All these and many, many more were given out so tune in and have a laugh with us.
PS – Thanks to Emperor Palpatine to take some time out of his busy schedule promoting Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker to help us with our Hazie Award intro.
Welcome back to Comics Misremembered Podcast. We are continuing our discussion on The Immortal Hulk. We are going over the 2nd story arc (issues 6 – 10) which is called “The Green Door“.
Let’s reintroduce the creators of this grand tale:
Writer: Al Ewing
Artists: Jon Bennet, Lee Garbett, Martin Simmons
Inkers: Ruy Jose, Le Beau Underwood & Rafael Fonteriz
Colorist: Paul Mounts
We start with the Hulk still at large and now being pursued by The Avengers for all the destruction he has caused since his resurrection. The Avengers confront Bruce Banner…
A fight ensues and the Hulk almost gets away but Tony Stark pulls out his Ace in the Hole – The Helios Weapon and knocks the Immortal Hulk out.
The Hulk is turned over to the United States Hulk Operations AKA Shadow Base. This is a military organization run by the General Reginald “Reggie” Fortean – the premiere hulk hunter. He has plans for Bruce Banner and The Immortal Hulk but I don’t think Bruce or the Hulk will cooperate willingly with those plans…
We continue the story and review of The Immortal Hulk in the podcast.
***Warning – There are spoilers in the podcast!!***
Jon and I both agree that this is will ultimately be an epic story run and will have a profound impact on Hulk lore for years to come. We highly recommend that you pick up the 2 trades we reviewed and continue on with the story.
Also, I referenced A Tell-Tale Heart on the podcast specifically mentioning a animated short from the 1950s that was narrated by James Mason. I found the clip on YouTube! Here it is:
I am very excited about tonight’s podcast. We will be reviewing the first story arc of the Immortal Hulk # 1 – 5. The story arc is called “Or Is He Both?“
I am excited because I have been reading this in issues for the last 2 years and think it is one of the best written, drawn, inked and colored stories of the last few years. This is not hyperbole. When the creators of this book finish their run, it will go down as one of the best Hulk stories of all time. Jon has not read the series so I gave him “Or Is He Both?” and we discuss the book.
Writer: Al Ewing
Artist: Joe Bennet
Ink: Ruy Jose
Colorist: Paul Mounts
***SPOILERS IN THE PODCAST***
The story opens with a Carl Gustav Jung quote:
“There are two people in every mirror. There is the one you can see…
and there’s the other one.”
Jon and I explore some of Jung’s psychological concepts, what that quote means and how it is applicable to Dr. Bruce Banner and his relationship with the Hulk.
We go on to talk about the ties the second issue has with the Incredible Hulk TV show from the 70s and the unique story telling of issue three.
We end the podcast with Jon’s opinion of the first story arc and if he is as excited as I am to talk about the second story arc next week.
If you can’t find the original issues, Marvel has reprinted a good chunk of them and they are called The Director’s Cut – they feature some supplemental material that wasn’t in the original release.
We don’t spoil everything in the podcast but we will next week so go out and read this comic and join use for part 2 next week!
We had originally planned to do a comic review this week but I had recently been to my local departments store and saw that X-Men: Dark Phoenix recently came out on Blu Ray and 4K Hi Def Disc (just like comics, I like my movie’s physical, not digital). So on a whim, I picked up a copy of the movie and asked Jon if he’s like to watch it and use it as the topic of discussion for this week’s podcast.
Guess what? He decided it was a great idea, so we watched it. We both decided to go in with low expectations and see what kind of story were we going to get. Well, the movie is a bit of a mixed bag. We like some parts and hated other parts. Overall, we both agree it was ‘okay’.
Listen to the podcast for our full review and why we recommend watching this movie depending on you level of love for the source material.
Listen to the Dark Phoenix Saga podcasts to find out why this epic story will probably never be filmed correctly.
The X-Men soft rebooted again last week (is this like the 4th one so far? I lost count) but I ain’t even mad at you, Marvel for doing it.
I was really enjoying the last incarnation of the Uncanny X-Men that started up last year and then I heard that they were going to stop Uncanny again (Ugh!) and restart with 2 new books: House of X #1 and Powers of X #1.
Now the names aren’t so great – House of X sounds like a 1990s fashion show and Powers of X sounds like a math book, but I was very excited about the creative teams on these books.
House of X is by writer Jonathan Hickman with art by Pepe Larraz
Powers of X is by writer Jonathan Hickman with art by R. B. Silva
Having read other Jonathan Hickman Marvel projects like Fantastic Four, Avengers and Secret Wars – I knew that the X-Men were in good hands and we can expect a really compelling story.
This is exactly what we got. Jon and I review the first 2 issues of House of X and the 1 issue of Powers of X that have come out so far. What I like best about these 2 series is that if you are new to the X-Men or a long time reader (like us), you start on the same page by getting introduced to familiar characters but in a new situation and trying to figure out where the story will go next. Sit back and enjoy the ride.
Spoilers on this podcast – we talk about the story in both but since it is only the beginning, there isn’t much to spoil. Jon and I take guesses on what the creative teams will do next.
Marvel Cinematic Universe’s 2nd Spider-Man movie came out July 2nd 2019 and it is titled:
Spider-Man: Far From Home
We went and saw it last Sunday. I was very excited for this movie because the previews had Jake Gyllenhaal playing Mysterio, a long time villain in the Spider-Man comics. This is the first time he will be brought to the big screen and I thought they had perfect casting with Jake.
I thought the movie movie was near perfect (listen to the podcast to find out why it’s not flawless). Jon on the other hand had 1 big plot point that he could not get over so it made the movie less enjoyable. I tried to talk him out of this sticking point but he will not budge. Does he have a point? Listen and let me know.
The things I like about the movie:
Humor – there are tons of funny scenes and situational comedy which is a hallmark of Spider-Man comics and previous movies.
Romance – Peter is a young romantic and he tries his best to win the affection of Mary Jane.
Mystery – who is Mysterio? Is he friend or foe? Watch the movie and find out!
Action – Spider-Man has some intense battles. Does everyone survive? Find out!
I feel, if you liked Homecoming then you will definitely like Far From Home and hopefully you will like the 3rd movie: Spider-Man: Home Alone. 🙂
Welcome back to the 2nd half of our discussion on Chris Claremont and John Byrne’s seminal X-Men storyline: The Dark Phoenix Saga.
In this podcast, we pick up were we left off: The X-Men escaping the clutches of the Hellfire Club and heading back to the X-Mansion. During their flight back, Jean Grey loses control of the Phoenix and the Dark Phoenix emerges…
As you can tell from these covers, the X-Men do not have a good time when the Dark Phoenix is around. The Dark Phoenix attempts to kill all the X-Men, then she goes and snuffs out a galaxy and finally the X-Men have to fight for their lives and the fate of Jean Grey…on the moon. There is a lot of story and we try to cover all of it and more in the podcast.
We also take a look behind the scenes to find out what decisions Editor-in-Chief Jim Shooter and co-plotters: Chris Claremont and John Byrne made to come to the epic conclusion of the X-Men story.
Towards the end of the podcast, I explain why the Legion of Superheroes (group on the left) look a lot like the Shi’ar Imperial Guard (group on the right).
If you have never read the Dark Phoenix Saga, we highly recommend checking it out. You can read it digitally through Marvel.com or buy a trade paperback like we did. Thanks for listening and we will see you next week.
Since the movies have tried to do a version of the Dark Phoenix Saga twice (X-Men 3 and Dark Phoenix) and have failed both times, Jon and I have decided to talk about the original comic series the story is based upon.
The original Dark Phoenix Saga is officially considered to be issues #129 – 138 (Jan – Oct 1980) of Uncanny X-Men. The creators of this story are:
Writer: Chris Claremont
Artist: John Byrne
Inker: Terry Austin
This story originally starts as a subplot with Jean Grey in issue #101 (Oct 1976) when Marvel Girl rescues some astronauts. In saving the lives of these people, Jean Grey unwittingly allows a cosmic entity called the Phoenix Force to enter her body. Over the next few years, the X-Men (specifically Scott Summers and Charles Xavier) will notice changes in Jean Grey’s behavior.
It won’t be until issues #129 – 132 when Jean drastically starts to behave differently and is seduced by Jason Wyngarde (Mastermind) of the Hellfire Club. Jon and I go over the history on how Chris Claremont and John Byrne were inspired by the show The Avengers for the concept of The Hellfire Club and the characters.
Here is how they appeared in the comic…
But did you know that these characters where based on real life actors? It’s true. Here are John Byrne’s inspiration…
We explain the connection of these actors to their comic counter parts and how Byrne came up with their comic character names.
We go over some history and some of the story on why this is one of the greatest comic stories ever told. This is only part 1 of the conversation. We will continue this next week with the conclusion of the Dark Phoenix Saga and why TV and movies always get the adaptation wrong.
Avengers Infinity War Part 1 summary – Thanos had combined the Infinity Stones to make the Infinity Gauntlet and unleashed his sinister plan: wipe out half the population of the Universe.
Avengers Endgame – The movie starts out shortly after the events of Infinity War as Iron Man, Captain America and the other Avengers try to pick up the pieces of the biggest defeat they have ever encountered.
They try to right the wrongs that Thanos created but all their efforts lead to dead ends. Until Scott Lang AKA Ant-Man shows up with a plan so crazy it just might work!
Jon and I go over our thoughts on Avengers Endgame in the podcast. We don’t hold back so there are many spoilers in this review/critique of the movie. The ‘No Spoilers’ Embargo is over! We are giving everyone fair warning!
I can tell you that Jon and I both like this movie but it could have been better. We talk about plot points including a gigantic plot hole that really can’t be forgiven, but it’s not all bad though. This movie had several fun and exciting moments that make it worth recommending.
We also go over what we would have done differently to make this a better movie and what we are hoping for in future Avengers movie.
The movie is 3 hours long so we don’t cover absolutely everything that happens in this podcast. We stick to just the main story arc. There are still plenty of surprise for you in the movie.
Also, if you enjoyed this review, be sure the check out our take on Avengers Infinity War Part 1 which I am linking here:
Happy St. Patrick’s Day to those who celebrate. During this podcast I was celebrating by drinking an English beer called The Old Speckled Hen so obviously I am not celebrating it correctly. I should have bought a Guinness. But you did not come here to follow my drinking habits. You are here to listen to our podcast about the Captain Marvel Movie!!
The Captain Marvel movie is finally here! There was many weeks of controversy prior to it’s release on March 8th release. What was the controversy? Well, Jon and I talk about it very briefly at the top of the podcast and we have come to the decision that… there is no controversy. We cannot think of a single thing that would want to make a person hate this movie prior to seeing it.
We then get into a discussion about how much we liked the movie and some things that we would change to make this a better movie.
As always, we will be spoiling major plot points in order to have a better discussion about the story and characters. If you have not seen the movie yet, then put this podcast on hold and come back once you have seen it.
We had a excellent time talking about the movie, the characters, their motivations, the history of Captain Marvel, The Kree and The Skrulls. This movie made a killing at the box office as of this post so we know there will be future Captain Marvel movies and we look forward to the MCU expanding the Kree and Skrull history and telling some fantastic tales.
A few weeks ago Jon and I reviewed the Marvel Original Graphic Novel (OGN) God Loves, Man Kills and that got me thinking: What other OGN do I own? It turns out – quite a lot. At least 15 of them. I pulled one from the pile and felt compelled to review it for nostalgia and oddity reasons.
This week we are talking about Iron Man: Crash OGN. It is written and drawn by Mike Saenz and it came out in December of 1987. What makes this comic (or graphic novel) so unique is that is was all drawn on a computer – a Macintosh 2 computer. It is the first computer generated graphic novel. If you are not familiar with that computer, let me put it to you this way – imagine if you had to draw 72 pages in MS Paint? How great do you think it will look? It is a product of it’s time but the art has not held up that well over time. Here are some same pages…
As you can see, the main image is greatly detailed but the background are sparse – this is due to the limitations of the tools. This was also the first time the lettering was used. Comics now use computer generated lettering as the standard.
Also, here is a sample of Tony Stark explaining to the reader how he puts on his Iron Man suit…
There are 3 PAGES OF THIS!! WHY IS THERE 3 PAGES OF THIS?!! I just don’t get the reason we needed all this detail about the armor.
The story is very vanilla and very confusing. We talk about the plot points in the podcast.
Is Iron Man: Crash a good OGN? No. Do we recommend you read it? Yes. Why? Because it is a comic time capsule. It is heavily influenced by Cyberpunk culture and we count the many Cyberpunk tropes/cliches it uses. It is a vision of the future which is now stuck in the past. It let’s you know that if you don’t learn from history, you are then doomed to repeat it.