CM Podcast 269 – The Wolverine (1982 miniseries and 2013 movie review) Part 2 of 2

I know it was hard to wait a week for our review but thanks for coming back! We continue with our examination of the Wolverine miniseries written by Chris Claremont and drawn by Frank Miller. It was published by Marvel in 1982. We also compare the miniseries to the 2013 The Wolverine movie and show you how much they used from the miniseries in the movie.

Some things you can expect to hear in this podcast:

  • We continue to spoil a comic that came out almost 40 years ago and has been recapped in issues of Uncanny X-Men, X-Men and The Wolverine regular series so it’s not much of a spoiler.
  • I call Yukio the wrong name for half the podcast and Jon does not pick up on it until I correct myself.
  • We know our 80s American Asian cinema – we go off on a 10 minute tangent to talk about how Asian culture influenced media during the 1980s.
  • Jon and I try to piece together why Storm has her “punk rocker” look on the final 2 pages of issue #173 of Uncanny X-Men.

All this and more hilarity with this podcast. Thanks for listening.

Jim

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CM Podcast 268 – The Wolverine (1982 miniseries comic and 2013 movie) Part 1 of 2

A new week and a new comic. This week we are talking about Chris Claremont and Frank Miller‘s collaboration on the 1983 Marvel miniseries Wolvervine.

We recently read the trade paperback of the 4 issue miniseries and took some time out to watch the 2013 The Wolverine movie. There are many moments the movie uses which is directly taken from the miniseries.

At the start of the podcast, we go over a interview that Chris Claremont told Sean Howe about how he trapped Frank Miller and forced him to work on the miniseries with him.

This chance encounter lead to an epic miniseries that all the fans demanded. 1982 was when the Uncanny X-Men were at the height of their popularity. The character that everyone wanted more of was Wolverine. He was the mysterious, animal bad boy with the shadowy past. The miniseries was a way to add more dimensions to him. Everyone expected a hack and slash tale (and they got that) but they also got to know the sensitive side of Logan.

***SPOILER ALERT***

We are talking about the entire Wolverine miniseries and the movie so we will be spoiling all of the plot points. The miniseries is almost 40 years old so some of the original story has been retold in other comics so if you are long time follower of Wolvie, then you know most of this story.

Jim

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CM Podcast 264 – Akira (1988 movie)

It is Jon’s birthday today (wish him a happy one), I gave him the opportunity to pick what ever comic related item he wanted to cover for the podcast. He kept the Dystopian Futures theme going by picking Akira – the anime movie to review.

For those that are not familiar with Akira, here is a little background on the material. It is based on a 1982 Manga series by Katsuhiro Otomo. As it was published in Japan, Marvel picked up the rights to distribute it in America under their Epic imprint. In 1988, Katsuhiro Otomo directed the anime version of the movie. At the time, it cost $5 million dollars to make and was the most expensive animated movie to date. Akira is an epic tale about teen angst, political corruption, family and friendship that ends in a giant psychic battle.

This may be one of the most influential movies of all time. You can see elements of the movie being emulated in other animated shows. Here is a quick clip of Kaneda sliding on his bike how many other shows pay homage to it.

There was talk of an American live action version of Akira in early 2000s but this never happened. Here is what it would have looked like…

Akira is a great movie (and even greater manga) but it does get a little convoluted in the end. I have seen the movie multiple times but still cannot figure out the ending. Jon and I still highly recommend watching it because it still holds up.

Jim

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CM Podcast 252 – Daredevil: Born Again (1986)

Welcome back to Comics Misremembered. This week we are going to talk about a story that people will argue that is Marvel’s greatest story ever. There are others that hold this story in reverence. We may make these people angry with our podcast.

Tonight, we are talking about Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli’s seminal Daredevil story – Born Again. Originally published as Daredevil #227 – 231 in 1986 by Marvel.

I explain in the podcast how I came to buy the trade paper back for Born Again and why we are recording a podcast for it now. In reflection, it seems the perfect time to do a story review for this book.

Here is the cover of the trade that I bought.

For those that have never read or even heard of this story, let me give you some of the history. Frank Miller wrote and drew some of the defining moments of Daredevil in the 70s and 80s. He would leave Marvel and work on several Batman stories over at DC.

In 1986, Frank was invited back to write a new storyline for Daredevil to help boost it’s sales. Jim Shooter, editor-in-chief at the time, asked Frank if he would like to take a crack at the Scarlett Swashbuckler again. Frank said he would and so history is made.

Jon and I have never read this story until today. We both are not big Daredevil fans but we are familiar with the character of Matt Murdock and his family of characters. This story is wildly hyped, but does it live up to it? We tell you in the podcast. We also cover the religious symbolism that Miller and Mazzucchelli put into the story.

It’s a great story but one of the greatest? You be the judge. Oh, by the way – SPOILERS WILL BE IN THE PODCAST.

Jim

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CM Podcast 251 – New Comic Review

Welcome to Comics Misremembered New Comic Review. Jon and I find 4 titles that have come out in the past few weeks and we make recommendations. Usually these comics are independent titles that you may have missed. All of our recommendations are worth your time and we highly recommend reading them. Let’s get to talking comics this week…

The reviews are like this: Jon starts then I do the next and so on until we review 4 books. Got it! Great. Here is the order…

Wolverine #1 – Jon’s review

  • Writer: Benjamin Percy
  • Artists: Adam Kurbert and Viktor Bogdonavic
  • Publisher: Marvel

BANG! #1 – Jim’s review

  • Writer: Matt Kindt
  • Artist: Wilfredo Torres
  • Publisher: Dark Horse Comics

Mirka Andolfo’s Mercy #1 – Jon review

  • Writer: Mirka Andolfo
  • Aritst: Mirka Andolfo
  • Publisher: Image Comic

Tomorrow #1 – Jim review

  • Writer: Peter Milligan
  • Artist: Jesus Hervas
  • Publisher: Dark Horse Comics (Berger Books imprint)

There you have it. 4 great books with glowing reviews. Go pick them up as soon as possible because issue #2 for most of them will be out in a week or 2.

Jim

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CM Podcast 250 – Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle (1979)

Welcome to a very special edition of Comics Misremembered Podcast. We are celebrating our 250th podcast!! About a week ago I had no idea what we were going to do to honor this milestone.

We started kicking around ideas: Maybe do a countdown of our favorite storylines. We ditched this idea because we figured it would be too similar to past podcasts. Then changed it up to: review a great and celebrated storyline that is often over looked.

This brings us to the topic of this week’s CM Podcast. We will be reviewing the trade paperback of Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle. This is a collection Iron Man Vol.1 #120 – 128. The original story was published by Marvel in 1979.

The creators of this storyline are: Writer/Co-Plotter – David Michelinie, Artist – John Romita, Jr and Inker/Co-Plotter Bob Layton.

The title Demon in a Bottle comes from Iron Man #128 which is the final part of the overall story arc. It also has one of the most recognizable covers of all time created by Bob Layton.

Jon and I have never read this story in it’s original run. We had a great time going over it and we both think it is as relevant today as it was in 1979. I think the reason it is often overlooked on people’s Top Ten lists is because this is only the beginning of Tony Stark’s descent into alcoholism. In this story arc: Bethany Cabe points out that he has a drinking problem, helps him identify the problem and overcome it. Tony seems to have conquered his demons. Or has he?

If you continue reading after #128, Tony’s struggle become worse and he will eventually lose everything to drinking. It will be several years before he turns it all around to become sober and a success again.

It’s a terrific story that shows that no man is an island. You sometimes have more problems than you can handle and it is always a good idea to have your friends and family help you out when times are tough.

We compare Tony Stark of the 70s to how he behaves in the 2020s, we cover the infamous Javis resignation letter and discuss how they tired to use elements of this story in the Iron Man 2 movie to varying degrees of success.

Jim

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CM Podcast 244 – New Comic Review

It has been awhile since our last new comic review and there have been plenty of new comics released in the past few months so we wanted to talk about 4 that we think are exceptional!

You know the format that Jon and I use:

  • We review the 1st issue of a new comic.
  • This comic has been release within the last 3 months.
  • We keep the reviews to just the first issue so not to spoil too much.
  • We want you to check out all 4 books because we think they are worth your time.

I do the first review and then Jon does the second. We switch off until we get through all 4 books. So enough of the explanations! Let’s me show you the comics we talk about in podcast…

Review #1 – A Jim Review

Iron Man 2020 #1

Writers: Dan Slott and Christos Gage

Artist: Peter M. Woods

Publisher: Marvel

Review #2 – A Jon Review

Punisher: Soviet #1

Writer: Garth Ennis

Artist: Jacen Burrows

Publisher: Marvel Max

Review #3 – A Jim Review

Far Sector #1

Writer: N. K. Jemisin

Artist: Jamal Campbell

Publisher: DC under Young Animals imprint

Review #4 – A Jon Review

Strayed #1

Writer: Carlos Giffoni

Artist: Juan Doe

Publisher: Dark Horse Comics

These are the 4 new series you should be reading, if you are not already. All have great creators with stories that will keep you interested.

Also, as a bit of bonus content. Here is a comparison of the 1984 Iron Man 2020 vs the Peter Woods’ Iron Man 2020. Which do you think is the the better design? I share my thoughts in the podcast.

That’s all for this week. See you in 7.

Jim

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CM Podcast 240 – 5th Annual Hazie Awards

We have reached the end of 2019. It has been another great year for comics. There were plenty of great comic books, comic related shows and movies that we covered here at Comics Misremembered.

Traditionally at the end of the year, most comic podcasts would do a review show of the best of the best comic related books, shows and movies but that’s not what we do here at the Comics Misremembered Podcast.

We like to cover comic related stories that happened through out the year that we thought were funny to us. The topics we cover are either a storyline, a story about a creator or comic company or any comic related tale that we want you to remember again. We called the award show The Hazies – because our memory is a little hazy.

I even went out and bought an actual award. I am not mailing it out to the winners (Sorry). I have been meaning to get one so here it is…

Listen to the podcast to find out who or what won this Hazie for these categories…

Dick Move Hazie

Killing Me Softly With His Love Hazie

Fear of a Female Planet Hazie

I Take My Coffee Black Like My Worldview Hazie

He Put The ‘No’ in Nostalgia Hazie

All these and many, many more were given out so tune in and have a laugh with us.

PS – Thanks to Emperor Palpatine to take some time out of his busy schedule promoting Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker to help us with our Hazie Award intro.

Jim

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CM Podcast 233 – The Immortal Hulk (# 6 – 10)

Welcome back to Comics Misremembered Podcast. We are continuing our discussion on The Immortal Hulk. We are going over the 2nd story arc (issues 6 – 10) which is called “The Green Door“.

Let’s reintroduce the creators of this grand tale:

Writer: Al Ewing

Artists: Jon Bennet, Lee Garbett, Martin Simmons

Inkers: Ruy Jose, Le Beau Underwood & Rafael Fonteriz

Colorist: Paul Mounts

We start with the Hulk still at large and now being pursued by The Avengers for all the destruction he has caused since his resurrection. The Avengers confront Bruce Banner…

A fight ensues and the Hulk almost gets away but Tony Stark pulls out his Ace in the Hole – The Helios Weapon and knocks the Immortal Hulk out.

The Hulk is turned over to the United States Hulk Operations AKA Shadow Base. This is a military organization run by the General Reginald “Reggie” Fortean – the premiere hulk hunter. He has plans for Bruce Banner and The Immortal Hulk but I don’t think Bruce or the Hulk will cooperate willingly with those plans…

We continue the story and review of The Immortal Hulk in the podcast.

***Warning – There are spoilers in the podcast!!***

Jon and I both agree that this is will ultimately be an epic story run and will have a profound impact on Hulk lore for years to come. We highly recommend that you pick up the 2 trades we reviewed and continue on with the story.

Also, I referenced A Tell-Tale Heart on the podcast specifically mentioning a animated short from the 1950s that was narrated by James Mason. I found the clip on YouTube! Here it is:

Thanks for listening,

Jim

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CM Podcast 232 – The Immortal Hulk # 1 – 5

I am very excited about tonight’s podcast. We will be reviewing the first story arc of the Immortal Hulk # 1 – 5. The story arc is called “Or Is He Both?

I am excited because I have been reading this in issues for the last 2 years and think it is one of the best written, drawn, inked and colored stories of the last few years. This is not hyperbole. When the creators of this book finish their run, it will go down as one of the best Hulk stories of all time. Jon has not read the series so I gave him “Or Is He Both?” and we discuss the book.

Writer: Al Ewing

Artist: Joe Bennet

Ink: Ruy Jose

Colorist: Paul Mounts

Publisher: Marvel

***SPOILERS IN THE PODCAST***

The story opens with a Carl Gustav Jung quote:

“There are two people in every mirror. There is the one you can see…

and there’s the other one.”

Jon and I explore some of Jung’s psychological concepts, what that quote means and how it is applicable to Dr. Bruce Banner and his relationship with the Hulk.

We go on to talk about the ties the second issue has with the Incredible Hulk TV show from the 70s and the unique story telling of issue three.

We end the podcast with Jon’s opinion of the first story arc and if he is as excited as I am to talk about the second story arc next week.

If you can’t find the original issues, Marvel has reprinted a good chunk of them and they are called The Director’s Cut – they feature some supplemental material that wasn’t in the original release.

We don’t spoil everything in the podcast but we will next week so go out and read this comic and join use for part 2 next week!

Jim

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CM Podcast 226 – X-Men: Dark Phoenix (2019)

A few months back, Jon and I decided not to see the X-Men: Dark Phoenix movie because we did not hear good things about it.

Instead, we did a review on the original Dark Phoenix Saga comic story and it was so epic that we had to break it down into 2 parts. Here are the links to those podcasts:

Dark Phoenix Saga Part 1

https://comicsmisremembered.com/2019/06/29/cm-podcast-214-the-dark-phoenix-saga/

Dark Phoenix Saga Part 2

https://comicsmisremembered.com/2019/07/06/cm-podcast-215-the-dark-phoenix-saga-part-2/

We had originally planned to do a comic review this week but I had recently been to my local departments store and saw that X-Men: Dark Phoenix recently came out on Blu Ray and 4K Hi Def Disc (just like comics, I like my movie’s physical, not digital). So on a whim, I picked up a copy of the movie and asked Jon if he’s like to watch it and use it as the topic of discussion for this week’s podcast.

Guess what? He decided it was a great idea, so we watched it. We both decided to go in with low expectations and see what kind of story were we going to get. Well, the movie is a bit of a mixed bag. We like some parts and hated other parts. Overall, we both agree it was ‘okay’.

Listen to the podcast for our full review and why we recommend watching this movie depending on you level of love for the source material.

Listen to the Dark Phoenix Saga podcasts to find out why this epic story will probably never be filmed correctly.

Jim

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CM Podcast 220 – House Of X and Power Of X

The X-Men soft rebooted again last week (is this like the 4th one so far? I lost count) but I ain’t even mad at you, Marvel for doing it.

I was really enjoying the last incarnation of the Uncanny X-Men that started up last year and then I heard that they were going to stop Uncanny again (Ugh!) and restart with 2 new books: House of X #1 and Powers of X #1.

Now the names aren’t so great – House of X sounds like a 1990s fashion show and Powers of X sounds like a math book, but I was very excited about the creative teams on these books.

House of X is by writer Jonathan Hickman with art by Pepe Larraz

Powers of X is by writer Jonathan Hickman with art by R. B. Silva

Having read other Jonathan Hickman Marvel projects like Fantastic Four, Avengers and Secret Wars – I knew that the X-Men were in good hands and we can expect a really compelling story.

This is exactly what we got. Jon and I review the first 2 issues of House of X and the 1 issue of Powers of X that have come out so far. What I like best about these 2 series is that if you are new to the X-Men or a long time reader (like us), you start on the same page by getting introduced to familiar characters but in a new situation and trying to figure out where the story will go next. Sit back and enjoy the ride.

Spoilers on this podcast – we talk about the story in both but since it is only the beginning, there isn’t much to spoil. Jon and I take guesses on what the creative teams will do next.

See you in 7,

Jim

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CM Podcast 216 – Spider-Man: Far From Home Movie

Marvel Cinematic Universe’s 2nd Spider-Man movie came out July 2nd 2019 and it is titled:

Spider-Man: Far From Home

We went and saw it last Sunday. I was very excited for this movie because the previews had Jake Gyllenhaal playing Mysterio, a long time villain in the Spider-Man comics. This is the first time he will be brought to the big screen and I thought they had perfect casting with Jake.

I thought the movie movie was near perfect (listen to the podcast to find out why it’s not flawless). Jon on the other hand had 1 big plot point that he could not get over so it made the movie less enjoyable. I tried to talk him out of this sticking point but he will not budge. Does he have a point? Listen and let me know.

The things I like about the movie:

Humor – there are tons of funny scenes and situational comedy which is a hallmark of Spider-Man comics and previous movies.

Romance – Peter is a young romantic and he tries his best to win the affection of Mary Jane.

Mystery – who is Mysterio? Is he friend or foe? Watch the movie and find out!

Action – Spider-Man has some intense battles. Does everyone survive? Find out!

I feel, if you liked Homecoming then you will definitely like Far From Home and hopefully you will like the 3rd movie: Spider-Man: Home Alone. ūüôā

Your comics pal,

Jim

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CM Podcast 215 – The Dark Phoenix Saga Part 2

Welcome back to the 2nd half of our discussion on Chris Claremont and John Byrne’s seminal X-Men storyline: The Dark Phoenix Saga.

In this podcast, we pick up were we left off: The X-Men escaping the clutches of the Hellfire Club and heading back to the X-Mansion. During their flight back, Jean Grey loses control of the Phoenix and the Dark Phoenix emerges…

As you can tell from these covers, the X-Men do not have a good time when the Dark Phoenix is around. The Dark Phoenix attempts to kill all the X-Men, then she goes and snuffs out a galaxy and finally the X-Men have to fight for their lives and the fate of Jean Grey…on the moon. There is a lot of story and we try to cover all of it and more in the podcast.

We also take a look behind the scenes to find out what decisions Editor-in-Chief Jim Shooter and co-plotters: Chris Claremont and John Byrne made to come to the epic conclusion of the X-Men story.

Towards the end of the podcast, I explain why the Legion of Superheroes (group on the left) look a lot like the Shi’ar Imperial Guard (group on the right).

If you have never read the Dark Phoenix Saga, we highly recommend checking it out. You can read it digitally through Marvel.com or buy a trade paperback like we did. Thanks for listening and we will see you next week.

Your comics pal,

Jim

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CM Podcast 214 – The Dark Phoenix Saga

Since the movies have tried to do a version of the Dark Phoenix Saga twice (X-Men 3 and Dark Phoenix) and have failed both times, Jon and I have decided to talk about the original comic series the story is based upon.

The original Dark Phoenix Saga is officially considered to be issues #129 – 138 (Jan – Oct 1980) of Uncanny X-Men. The creators of this story are:

Writer: Chris Claremont

Artist: John Byrne

Inker: Terry Austin

The unofficial start of Jean Grey’s transition into Phoenix.

This story originally starts as a subplot with Jean Grey in issue #101 (Oct 1976) when Marvel Girl rescues some astronauts. In saving the lives of these people, Jean Grey unwittingly allows a cosmic entity called the Phoenix Force to enter her body. Over the next few years, the X-Men (specifically Scott Summers and Charles Xavier) will notice changes in Jean Grey’s behavior.

It won’t be until issues #129 – 132 when Jean drastically starts to behave differently and is seduced by Jason Wyngarde (Mastermind) of the Hellfire Club. Jon and I go over the history on how Chris Claremont and John Byrne were inspired by the show The Avengers for the concept of The Hellfire Club and the characters.

Here is how they appeared in the comic…

left to right: Jean Grey, Jason Wyngarde, Sebasitan Shaw, Harry Leland and Donald Pierce

But did you know that these characters where based on real life actors? It’s true. Here are John Byrne’s inspiration…

We explain the connection of these actors to their comic counter parts and how Byrne came up with their comic character names.

We go over some history and some of the story on why this is one of the greatest comic stories ever told. This is only part 1 of the conversation. We will continue this next week with the conclusion of the Dark Phoenix Saga and why TV and movies always get the adaptation wrong.

Your comics pal,

Jim

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