CM Podcast 215 – The Dark Phoenix Saga Part 2

Welcome back to the 2nd half of our discussion on Chris Claremont and John Byrne’s seminal X-Men storyline: The Dark Phoenix Saga.

In this podcast, we pick up were we left off: The X-Men escaping the clutches of the Hellfire Club and heading back to the X-Mansion. During their flight back, Jean Grey loses control of the Phoenix and the Dark Phoenix emerges…

As you can tell from these covers, the X-Men do not have a good time when the Dark Phoenix is around. The Dark Phoenix attempts to kill all the X-Men, then she goes and snuffs out a galaxy and finally the X-Men have to fight for their lives and the fate of Jean Grey…on the moon. There is a lot of story and we try to cover all of it and more in the podcast.

We also take a look behind the scenes to find out what decisions Editor-in-Chief Jim Shooter and co-plotters: Chris Claremont and John Byrne made to come to the epic conclusion of the X-Men story.

Towards the end of the podcast, I explain why the Legion of Superheroes (group on the left) look a lot like the Shi’ar Imperial Guard (group on the right).

If you have never read the Dark Phoenix Saga, we highly recommend checking it out. You can read it digitally through Marvel.com or buy a trade paperback like we did. Thanks for listening and we will see you next week.

Your comics pal,

Jim

Comics Misremembered Podcast 215

CM Podcast 214 – The Dark Phoenix Saga

Since the movies have tried to do a version of the Dark Phoenix Saga twice (X-Men 3 and Dark Phoenix) and have failed both times, Jon and I have decided to talk about the original comic series the story is based upon.

The original Dark Phoenix Saga is officially considered to be issues #129 – 138 (Jan – Oct 1980) of Uncanny X-Men. The creators of this story are:

Writer: Chris Claremont

Artist: John Byrne

Inker: Terry Austin

The unofficial start of Jean Grey’s transition into Phoenix.

This story originally starts as a subplot with Jean Grey in issue #101 (Oct 1976) when Marvel Girl rescues some astronauts. In saving the lives of these people, Jean Grey unwittingly allows a cosmic entity called the Phoenix Force to enter her body. Over the next few years, the X-Men (specifically Scott Summers and Charles Xavier) will notice changes in Jean Grey’s behavior.

It won’t be until issues #129 – 132 when Jean drastically starts to behave differently and is seduced by Jason Wyngarde (Mastermind) of the Hellfire Club. Jon and I go over the history on how Chris Claremont and John Byrne were inspired by the show The Avengers for the concept of The Hellfire Club and the characters.

Here is how they appeared in the comic…

left to right: Jean Grey, Jason Wyngarde, Sebasitan Shaw, Harry Leland and Donald Pierce

But did you know that these characters where based on real life actors? It’s true. Here are John Byrne’s inspiration…

We explain the connection of these actors to their comic counter parts and how Byrne came up with their comic character names.

We go over some history and some of the story on why this is one of the greatest comic stories ever told. This is only part 1 of the conversation. We will continue this next week with the conclusion of the Dark Phoenix Saga and why TV and movies always get the adaptation wrong.

Your comics pal,

Jim

Comics Misremembered Podcast 214

CM Podcast 191 – Xmen God Loves, Man Kills

I love doing comic reviews and I especially love it when it’s a comic that I have heard about but never had the opportunity to read until now. This is one of those podcasts.

X-men God Loves, Man Kills is the 5th comic in the Marvel Graphic Novel series that came out in 1982. The original is hard to find but, thanks to reprints – you can get a cheap version of it today and, depending on which version you get, you’ll get bonus art and interviews with the creators.

On the left is the original copy of the comic that came out in 1982 and on the right is the current reprint that I purchased. The story was written by long time X-men scribe, Chris Claremont with art by Brent Anderson.

What also makes this a unique podcast – Jon actually read this comic originally when it came out. HE ACTUALLY READ A COMIC THAT I HAD NOT READ! This is a rare feat.

In the podcast we talk about what makes the Marvel Graphic Novel series so special and what was happening in the world during 1982 that actually influenced the comic. There is some reminiscing and shouting – you know, our usual comic talk.

Then we get into talking about the comic. We are introduced to Reverend William Stryker. He is a televangelist that loves God but is not found of mutants.

Stryker apostatizing humanity over mutants

Stryker, in fact, hates mutants with all his might…

I like how Nightcrawler is like “What did I do?”

As you can see in 2 panels that Reverend William Stryker is a very bad, no-good, terrible person and you will find out just what lengths he will go to to eliminate mutants from the face of the earth. If Stryker seems familiar to you, that is because the story from this comic was used in the movie X-men 2 AKA X2. William Stryker is the name of the main villain in the movie.

We talk about the story, its message and our thoughts on Stryker and his army called The Purifiers. We do spoil the story but if you saw X2, you already know how the story goes.

That’s it for this week.

Your comics pal,

Jim

Comics Misremembered Podcast 191


CM Podcast 86 – Death of X Review

There is a cloud of Terrigen mist that is sweeping the Earth changing humans into…INHUMANS!  More with each passing day.  The mist is also killing all the mutants that come in contact with it!?  Soon there will be no mutants left and only Inhumans.  This could be the…(dramatic drum roll)…Death of X.

death-of-x-full

Are you excited?  That is the starting premise in the 4 issue limited series from the House of Ideas, Marvel.  I mean, that is an awesome start, right?!

Then you also get awesome variant covers.  Some are even reproductions of classic covers like these:

Who needs story when these covers are with the purchase price alone, amirite!  What?  You want to know about the actual story?  Really?  These covers aren’t selling you?  Okay.  I will tell you about the story but just remember: Be careful of what you ask for because you might just get it.  If you listen to the podcast, you will hear all the details of Death of X.  Fair warning: Spoiler Alert.  We cover it all.

Your Comics Pal,

Jim

Comics Misremembered Podcast 86