CM Podcast 279 – Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow (1986 comic book)

Last week, we reviewed the Warner Bros. Animated movie Superman: The Man of Tomorrow. Months ago, when the title of the movie was announced and there wasn’t any information about the movie, I thought they may be adapting the venerated Superman story: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. To my dismay, they did not adapt it and we were given a generic origin story for Superman.

Fast foward to a week later, I decided that we will be doing a retro review for Superman: Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow. This story was originally told as a 2 part tale in Superman # 423 (Part 1) and Action Comics #583 back in 1986. It was written by Alan Moore (with help by editor Julius Schwartz). The art was done by long time Silver Age artist, Curt Swan with inks done by George Perez (Superman #423) and long time Silver Age inker, Kurt Schaffenberger (Action Comics #583). The story is regarded as the “Last Superman Story” which is somewhat true. It was the last Silver Age story before DC would reboot and modernize Superman with the release of Man of Steel miniseries.

If you have never read this story, we highly recommend you buy the Collected Edition (Retails for $14.99 but you can find it for less online) and then listen to the podcast. This story has some surprises in the 2nd half and we spoil all of them in the podcast.

If you don’t mind spoilers, then check out the podcast. We go over a brief history on how Alan Moore was selected for this story and why it is considered one of the best Superman stories as well as best told comic book stories.

Jim

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CM Podcast – Crisis on Infinite Earths CW Crossover Conclusion (2019 – 2020)

If you listened to our CW Crisis podcast, you know that we were only able to watch the first 3 parts of this crossover because the shows went on a mini-hiatus. You can listen to that podcast here.

Well, that hiatus is over and the final 2 parts have air. We are here to talk about Crisis on Infinite Earths Crossover and look back at all 5 parts.

the 5 part crossover goes as follows:

Supergirl Part 1, Batwoman Part 2, The Flash Part 3, The Arrow Part 4 and finally, Legends of Tomorrow Part 5.

The final 2 parts explain the origins of The Anti-Matter Wave and how the Anti-Monitor came into existence. The remaining Paragons (our heroes) must make a final stand against the Anti-Monitor or face oblivion. Ultimately the heroes win…but at a cost!

One of these people will not show up for the following season.

Jon was disappointed at how episode 4 ended and he explains why but he feels there was a part in episode 5 that made up for it. I also explained to him why the thing he did not like was necessary and it made sense in the overall story arc.

We talk about the show and the many homages it pays to the original Crisis on Infinite Earth comic mini-series. The show even has Marv Wolfman in it – the guy who wrote the comic!

Crisis on Infinite Earths is not perfect but it is more than we both expected. In fact, we never would believe that we would be watching a TV show based on the Crisis comic. We salute you Marc Guggenheim and your writes for putting out some great shows and creating this miniseries.

Jim

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CM Podcast 238 – Crisis on Infinite Earths CW Crossover (2019 – 2020)

A TV Event years in the making. First there was Invasion!, then Crisis on Earth-X and that lead into The Elseworlds Crossover and finally…

Jon and I were psyched a year ago when it announced that Crisis on Infinite Earths would be the next crossover event for the 5 CW Superhero shows.

Supergirl Part 1, Batwoman Part 2, The Flash Part 3, Legends of Tomorrow Part 4 and finally, The Arrow Part 5.

We have seen Parts 1 – 3. Parts 4 – 5 will not air until mid-January so we decided to review the parts that we saw, what we liked about them and how well did they capture the essence of the original comic miniseries.

Our Heroes

Also, below is the clip off YouTube that I was describing at the start of the podcast. This clip aired at the end of Supergirl Episode 8 2018 – the episode prior to the Elseworld Crossover. It is not mentioned much in other episodes but it is a very mysterious clip…

Why, Monitor?

Overall, Jon and I both like the show and what it is trying to do. We go into more detail on the podcast and we are looking forward to the conclusion of Crisis on Infinite Earths!

Jim

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CM Podcast 235 – Crisis on Infinite Earths Pt. 2 (comic 1985)

Hello and welcome back to the 2nd and final part of our discussion on the epic miniseries Crisis on Infinite Earths that came out in 1985.

The series was written by Marv Wolfman with art by George Perez (pencils) and Jerry Ordway (inks). It was originally published by DC.

We do a quick recap and then get right back into the discussion of the story. Issue #7 is perhaps the most important issue of the series. It is where we get the origin story of Monitor, Anti-Monitor and Pariah. It is also has the death of an important member of the DC Universe – Supergirl.

You knew something bad was going to happen just by looking at the cover to issue #7…

Look at the way Kara looks in Superman’s arms and the way that Superman is crying. Those are tear of pain. Everyone thought “Supergirl must get hurt pretty bad in this one.” No one expected a death! That was unheard of for a popular character to die in comics but DC and Marv were rewriting all the rules, baby!

I mentioned that this cover is also one of the most parodied covers in all of comicdom. I did a quick google search and her are some the the “homage” covers that I found…

There are many, many more that exist out there. It just goes to show you how influential this series and George Perez’s art was this this time.

There is another death too in issue #8. An even bigger death! Listen to the podcast to find out who!

At the end of the podcast, Jon and myself reflect on the series and give you the answer on “Would you recommend the series?” Our answers may shock you.

Jim

(in the podcast I mention we are recording in 2017. This is a misremebrance. We actually recorded this on 11/24/2019)

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CM Podcast 234 – Crisis on Infinite Earths (comic 1985)

Last year the CW shows (Arrow, Flash, Supergirl and Heroes of Tomorrow) did a crossover event – Elseworlds. At the end of the crossover, they teased their next crossover with this static image:

We were like “Are they actually going to do this? This story? On the CW shows?!!”

wrap around cover by Alex Ross for the 30th anniversary collection of ‘Crisis’

The original, seminal comic miniseries Crisis on Infinite Earths came out in 1985 and it was one of the first “maxiseries – anything over 6 issues”. It was an epic tale and was a huge undertaking for the writer and artist. In this case:

Writer – Marv Wolfman

Artist – George Perez

Not only did these 2 creators tell a tale that spans dozens of worlds, with hundreds of characters over millions of years but it also served a purpose of realigning the DC universe to streamline it for new readers without alienation long time fans. It accomplishes both by the twelfth issue.

Here are some of the covers of the original miniseries:

In this week’s podcast, Jon and I go over the history of why Crisis on Infinite Earths was necessary to clean up continuity. We talk about our own histories on how we discovered the comic. We talk about the story and characters.

We can’t really say there are spoilers since this story is 35 years old and the basis on future Crisis events like Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis. In fact, all the plot twist that happened in this series have pretty much been retconned 3 or 4 times now.

Join us next week for the conclusion of our discussion on Crisis on Infinite Earths!

Jim

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CM Podcast 1 – Welcome to Comics Misremembered

Here is the link to the Week 1 Podcast.  In this episode Jim and Jon cover:

  • Crisis on Infinite Earth – The 1985 12 issue series that defined DC comics
  • Convergence – The head scratching, confusing 8 issue series released by DC comics in May 2015
  • Quickly touch on the super excellent Multiversity by DC comics.
  • Old Man Logan mini series – we review the original series that will make an appearance in Marvel’s 2015 Secret Wars.

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