CM Podcast 274 – Gotham Central (2003 comic)

A few weeks ago we did a podcast for the Netflix movie, The Old Guard. In that podcast, I mentioned that the comic and movie The Old Guard were both written by Greg Rucka. We went over some history of Greg Rucka’s past comic work and brought up that he did a Gotham Police comic with Ed Brubaker in 2003 called Gotham Central.

Fast forward to today. I was able to pick up the first book in the Gotham Central series so Jon and I read the first 2 story arcs: In the Line and Motive. We will talk about the comic and why you should be adding this to your “must read” list.

Gotham Central was written by Greg Rucka and Ed Brubaker with Michael Lark doing the art. It was published by DC in 2003. It ran for about 40 issues and was cancelled in 2006. It was nominated for Eisners for writing and art in 2003 and won an Eisner for Best Serialized Story in 2004.

So why did a well written police procedural comic with fantastic artwork have such a limited run? The answer is: no promotion. The comic started with hot but lost steam over the years. DC did not seem interested in keeping this comic going so rarely saw any ads for it and there were no crossovers in its 3 year run.

We recommend picking this book up and giving it a read. It starts with Detective Marcus Driver and Detective Charlie Fields following a lead for a missing persons case and then having the worst day ever…

Detective Driver survives his encounter with Mr. Freeze but his partner did not. The reader follows Detective Driver as he works with the Gotham Central to track Freeze down before he hurts someone else. Driver wants justice for his partner so he wants to find Freeze before the Batman does.

Jon and I really enjoyed this book and characters and we highly recommend that you pick it up. I am not a fan of police procedural books but this one held my interest. There is a buzz that this may get turned into a TV series and I hope it does. This book really deserves a chance at a bigger audience.

Jim

Comic Misremembered Podcast 274

CM Podcast 254 – Batman: Death in the Family (1988)

This week’s podcast was brought about by an answer to a twitter question: Without telling me exactly how old you are, tell me something about your youth?

Someone answered “I was alive when you had to call a 1-900 number to kill robin.”

Jon did not get the answer to the question. I immediately knew exactly what this person was saying. I started to tell Jon about the controversial Batman: Death in the Family story arc (Batman #426 – 429, 1988). The story was written by Jim Stalin (Infinity Gauntlet) with art by Jim Aparo (long time Batman artist) and inks by Mike DeCarlo.

Jon started to remember bits and pieces. I told him that this would be a great time to review that story on the podcast since I have the trade paperback of the story. So we both read it and here we are this week talking about a story that is about 28 years old.

I started to collect Batman comic just as this story was being published. I missed issue 426 but I was able to get the rest. About a month later, DC would collect all 4 issues in a trade paperback that had this cover:

Normally, collected trades for well known stories never came out shortly after they were published in issues in 1988. Some it is unusual that the trade came out as quick as it did and it was printed on regular paper stock, not the traditional high gloss stock.

It was a shocking event for 1988. There were very few deaths of heroes in comic up to this point. Killing Robin was as significant as killing Jean Grey and James “Bucky” Barnes. The other unique part of the death is that fans decided Robin’s fate. You would call one of 2 1-900 numbers: one to save Robin and the other to kill him. The media was all over this. When infamous issue #428 came out revealing Jason Todd (Robin) died, all the news channels were reporting it.

This story is an interesting time capsule. DC used the technology of the time (1-900 numbers) to get more interactive with fans and let them have a say in what happens. This type of event was never duplicated again (as far as I can remember).

We both read it again and had some good times remembering the good, the bad and the ugly regarding Batman: Death in the Family.

Jim

Comics Misremembered Podcast 254

CM Podcast 247 – Birds of Prey (2020)

Is it okay if I refer to the movie as Birds of Prey? Okay, for the rest of this post, the movie will be known as Birds of Prey.

If you don’t know, Birds of Prey has been going through an identity crisis over the last week since it has been released. Prior to February 7th, 2020, the movie was known as…

Birds of Prey and the Fantabulous Emancipation on One Harley Quinn

Here are some of the posters that were released for the movie…

After February 7th, I guess there was a group of people that did not know that Harley Quinn was in the movie. I can totally understand this. I mean, just look at those posters – they barely have Harley Quinn in any of them.

So the marketing geniuses at Warner Bros. Pictures decided to remame the movie…

Harley Quinn: The Birds of Prey

That is a perfect and succinct description in a title so there is no doubt that all your favorite characters from the DCEU are in this movie.

Now if this fails to draw the people into the theaters, then they are going with their 3rd revision of the title…

Batman and The Outsiders

Anyway, whatever you are calling this movie by the time of this post – we recommend that you run out and see this movie! It is a funny, fast paced, colorful crime heist that features some lesser know characters from the DC Universe (like Harley Quinn).

Jon and I review the movie – spoiler alert: WE BOTH LIKE IT ALOT! We talk about the original comic and the comic book versions of the characters and who well they translated to the movie. We give credit to Ewan McGregor for playing the not so well known, Black Mask and making it his own. We then reveal the Guardians of the Galaxy/Birds of Prey connection that you did not know existed until now and we end on the “nontroversy” of why its okay to have an all female cast of stars in a superhero movie.

Jim

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CM Podcast 240 – 5th Annual Hazie Awards

We have reached the end of 2019. It has been another great year for comics. There were plenty of great comic books, comic related shows and movies that we covered here at Comics Misremembered.

Traditionally at the end of the year, most comic podcasts would do a review show of the best of the best comic related books, shows and movies but that’s not what we do here at the Comics Misremembered Podcast.

We like to cover comic related stories that happened through out the year that we thought were funny to us. The topics we cover are either a storyline, a story about a creator or comic company or any comic related tale that we want you to remember again. We called the award show The Hazies – because our memory is a little hazy.

I even went out and bought an actual award. I am not mailing it out to the winners (Sorry). I have been meaning to get one so here it is…

Listen to the podcast to find out who or what won this Hazie for these categories…

Dick Move Hazie

Killing Me Softly With His Love Hazie

Fear of a Female Planet Hazie

I Take My Coffee Black Like My Worldview Hazie

He Put The ‘No’ in Nostalgia Hazie

All these and many, many more were given out so tune in and have a laugh with us.

PS – Thanks to Emperor Palpatine to take some time out of his busy schedule promoting Star Wars: Rise of Skywalker to help us with our Hazie Award intro.

Jim

Comics Misremembered Podcast 240 – 5th Annual Hazie Awards

CM Podcast 239 – JLA Earth 2 (2000)

Over the last few weeks, we have talked about DC’s 1985 Crisis on Infinite Earths miniseries and how it retconned their multiverse into a single universe.

DC’s new single Earth universe would remain this way through several crossover events and one more crisis, Zero Hour: Crisis in Time. It will not be until the year 2000 when writer Grant Morrison and artist Frank Quitely would introduce the concept of multiple Earths again with the stand alone comic, JLA Earth 2

These are the 2 covers of the initial release of JLA Earth 2 back in 2000.

I just want to talk about these covers for a second. Frank Quitely is a fantastic artist and he creates some amazing perspectives. I love how he literally has the mirror image of the JLA and CSA on these covers. The interiors are great too.

In this comic, we are reintroduced to The Crime Syndicate of Amerika who are now on the anti-matter world of Earth 2. Prior to Crisis on Infinite Earths, these villains were known as The Crime Syndicate of America and they resided on Earth 3.

As I mentioned in the podcast, the 1960 Earth 3 Owlman looks dumb. He looks like a man wearing a owl hat. How is anyone supposed to be intimidated by that? But the 2000 update by Morrison and Quitely is as scary as the original Batman!

Besides the amazing updates to all the costumes, Morrison and Quitely weave a compelling tale about what happens when a team that believes in truth and justice cross over to a world of pure evil. They explore Good vs Evil and show that these 2 concepts aren’t always black and white.

We also go over some of the real world events that happened back in 2000 and some of the history for the Justice League of America from 1985 – 2000.

Comics Misremembered Podcast 239

CM Podcast 234 – Crisis on Infinite Earths (comic 1985)

Last year the CW shows (Arrow, Flash, Supergirl and Heroes of Tomorrow) did a crossover event – Elseworlds. At the end of the crossover, they teased their next crossover with this static image:

We were like “Are they actually going to do this? This story? On the CW shows?!!”

wrap around cover by Alex Ross for the 30th anniversary collection of ‘Crisis’

The original, seminal comic miniseries Crisis on Infinite Earths came out in 1985 and it was one of the first “maxiseries – anything over 6 issues”. It was an epic tale and was a huge undertaking for the writer and artist. In this case:

Writer – Marv Wolfman

Artist – George Perez

Not only did these 2 creators tell a tale that spans dozens of worlds, with hundreds of characters over millions of years but it also served a purpose of realigning the DC universe to streamline it for new readers without alienation long time fans. It accomplishes both by the twelfth issue.

Here are some of the covers of the original miniseries:

In this week’s podcast, Jon and I go over the history of why Crisis on Infinite Earths was necessary to clean up continuity. We talk about our own histories on how we discovered the comic. We talk about the story and characters.

We can’t really say there are spoilers since this story is 35 years old and the basis on future Crisis events like Infinite Crisis and Final Crisis. In fact, all the plot twist that happened in this series have pretty much been retconned 3 or 4 times now.

Join us next week for the conclusion of our discussion on Crisis on Infinite Earths!

Jim

Comics Misremembered Podcast 234

CM Podcast 229 – The Joker (2019)

There was a small, independent movie that came out last Friday called The Joker. You may have heard about it…

Yes, the stripped down, grimy, throwback Joker movie sans Batman came out last week and we went to see it.

There was loads of hype about the movie prior to its October 4th release. Several sources were heralding the performance of Joaquin Phoenix as Arthur Fleck/The Joker and the movie had even won some film awards. There were also some people worrying that since the movie is all Joker and no Batman that it would incite riots and violence on its release.

Did the movie live up to the media hype? Were there riots in the streets similar to the support of the comment people for Joker in the movie?

Well, no and no.

Sorry, Joker but this movie was…underwhelming. It did not live up to the hyperbole that all the critics were giving it. It was a very average movie. Jon and I go over the movie using historical real life events that inspired the writers, compare it against similar films, talk about the “Is Joker an allegory for mental illness in America” debate, why it’s impossible to root for the bad guy and talk about how the movie could have been much better.

The movie does have some cool posters like this…

but style over substance is not going to win you any Oscars.

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CM Podcast 227 – Sugar & Spike: Metahuman Investigations

Back in 2017, I saw a trade paperback for a books called Sugar & Spike: Metahuman Investigations. The cover looked interesting but what caught my eye was the writer – Keith Giffen.

Keith Giffen is a well known writer and artist that has worked on high profile books like Legion of Superheroes and JLA. He is one of my favorite writers because he loves to inject humor in his projects. The 80s JLA is a great example of telling superhero stories with humor instead of the normal grim and gritty style that was popular at the time.

I wasn’t too familiar with the artist Bilquis Evely but I looked at a few pages and really liked her style for this book so I immediately picked it up.

Now, you may not be too familiar with the titular duo and that is okay. These characters were created back in the 50s by writer and artist Sheldon Mayer. They were originally baby characters that were in a funny book. Here is an example of Mayer’s version of Sugar & Spike:

In the podcast, Jon and I go through Sugar & Spike’s cases and we point out that all of their cases are based on silly DC silver age story lines and Giffen pays homage to these classics. One of the pages of the comic references the exact comics:

We both highly recommend this book for the art and humorous story. Jon mentions that this book reminded him of the old Moonlighting show and that is a great example of why this book works: a pair of opposites begrudgingly work together to solve crimes while knocking each other down a peg.

There probably will never be a sequel or follow up so I will just have to enjoy what I have and re-read it again.

Jim

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CM Podcast 205 – Detective Comics #1000 Review

Welcome back to the podcast! We have been covering comic movies that had been coming out over the last few weeks that we had to put this review on the back burner.

There is a 1 week delay before the next big comic movie (more on that next week) so this week we review a landmark comic event – the publication of the 2nd comic to hit 1000 issues!! The comic that gave DC it’s name – Detective Comics had it’s #1000 issue published a few weeks ago and we go over it in this week’s podcast.

Here are a few of the many variant covers. Starting in the upper left corner going clockwise: Alex Ross, Paul Dini, Frank Miller and Brian Bolland.

Similar to Action Comics #1000, the comic is a celebration of Batman and his extended family. The oversized comic has multiple stories by Batman writers past and present like Scott Snyder, Tom King, Dennis O’Neil, Warren Ellis, current scribe Peter Tomasi and more! We review some of our favorite stories from this issue.

This is also a great jumping on point for any new readers that have never read a Batman story before. The stories review Bruce Wayne/Batman’s past and his relationship with the Bat Family and villains. The comic ends with the introduction of a brand new villain, The Arkham Knight.

We highly recommend you pick this up.

Your comics pal,

Jim

Comics Misremembered Podcast 205


CM Podcast 175 – Heroes In Crisis

Heroes in Crisis is the new 9 issue miniseries by writer Tom King and artist Clay Mann.

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It is published by DC and it is their 2018 event comic.  How do I know it’s an Event Comic?  Well, it does have “Crisis” right there in the title.  I mean, that’s a dead give away right there, man.  C’mon!  Do you even comic book?

Enough of that silliness, let’s get back to serious business – talking about comic books!  Jon and I had the opportunity to read the first issue of Heroes in Crisis that came out this past Wednesday and we decided to give it a review on the podcast but also take some guesses as to who is the murder.  What?  You didn’t know it was a murder mystery?  Yep.  There are many murders in this book and it was a hero that did it?  (Or was it?)

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Okay.  Before we go too much further in the plot, let me just say right here:

  THERE WILL BE SPOILERS IN THIS PODCAST! 

Now, it’s just the first issue so I don’t know how much we can actually be spoiling but we do take some “stabs” at guessing who ultimately is responsible for the deaths at Sanctuary.

First Spoiler: There are 2 suspects that the reader is given at the end of the issue…

Harley Quinn

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and

Booster Gold

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I know exactly what you are thinking: “Who is Booster Gold?” or “Hell Yeah, it’s Harley Quinn!”  Both are valid points.  Listen to the podcast and we give our opinions on who really is responsible for the murders.  It just might change your opinion!  We also go over a quick history of Booster Gold for those that need a refresher.

Heroes In Crisis is starting off with a bang (and a stab)!  We look forward to the rest of the series.  Also, if you want to know why “Crisis” is DC’s event brand, you should really listen to Podcast 132: CW’s Crossover Event: Crisis on Earth-X.  I rundown all the related Crisis titles DC has published.

Your comics pal,

Jim

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CM Podcast 168 – Death of Superman Movie

Back in 1992, DC comic creators had planned a story line where Clark Kent would finally marry Lois Lane after years of dating.  This story was canceled at the last second due to a series of unfortunate events (which we chronicle in the podcast).

At the eleventh hour, the creative teams decide to go with a story line that was first suggested as a joke – “What if we kill Superman”? 

This led to the infamous Death of Superman story line that ran for a few years through all 4 Superman books leading to the ultimate issue – Superman #75 where Superman finally dies…at least for a year or so.  C’mon!  No one stays dead forever in comics. 😉

Here is what Superman #75 looked like in it’s sealed black plastic bag and the actual cover.

Jump to 2018, WB video has just released a direct-to-video original movie called The Death of Superman.  It is a adaptation of the multi-issue comic event that ends with Superman dying. (Spoilers!)

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Jon and I have watched the movie, read the comic event and give a brief oral history on why it was a good idea to kill one of the most recognized comic creations.

Your comics pal,

Jim

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CM Podcast 160 – Superman Annual #11

Superman Annual #11?  That’s specific and yet random for a Comics Misremembered Podcast.  Why are we talking about this one?

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Glad you asked.  Last podcast (159), I started to talk about Action Comics issue #1000 and I felt that it was a missed opportunity to tell a tale involving Superman to celebrate his life but also give new readers a little history on the character.  It was a good issue but not a great issue.  The stories did not live up to the milestone that Action Comics achieved, in my humble opinion.

Then I remembered reading Superman Annual #11 that came out in 1985.  It was written by Alan Moore with art by Dave Gibbons (the creative team behind The Watchmen) and I remembered how much I liked that story.

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Poor Kal-El.  He can never catch a break.

Jon never read the comic, which is also know as “For The Man Who Has Everything“, so he read it and I reread it and we decided to talk about it and then start breaking it down as to why it is a great story.  We also elaborate on why a story like this would be a great introduction to new Superman readers (even today).

We then breakdown how Alan Moore took stories that were happening in politics in the real world in 1985 and used this story as an allegory for Krypton.  The messages Moore was trying to get across in the story are as relevant today as they will be for years to come.

Listen to the podcast and do yourself a favor and get a copy of this annual to read.

Your comics pal,

Jim

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CM Podcast 155 – New Comics Review

In our last New Comics Review, we did mostly independent titles so we decided to do some Marvel and DC new comics this time around.

There are 4 reviews this week and here are the titles:

  1. Writer Jason Aaron with Artist Ed McGuinness for Avengers #1 (Jim review)
  2. Writer Charles Soule with Artist David Marquez and Paulo Siqueira for Hunt for Wolverine (Jon review)
  3. Writer Tom Taylor with Artist R. B. Silva for Adamantium Agenda (Jon review)
  4. Writers Joshua Williamson, James Tynion and Scott Snyder with Artist Francis Manapul for Justice League: No Justice (miniseries) (Jim review)

The downside of some of these books is that Marvel and DC are renumbering their flagship titles again (Marvel’s Avengers #1 and DC will relaunch Justice League at the end of No Justice as a #1) but the creators on these books and the stories that they are telling make this change a little easier to swallow.

The upside is that Avengers #1 is a great starting point for non-comic readers who saw Avengers: Infinity War and want a jumping on point for the comics.  Same thing for Justice League: No Justice.  Both books introduce you to the core members of each team and show you what else is hiding in the shadows of their perspective universes.

The Wolverine books bring you up to speed on what has happen to Wolverine since the evens of Death of Wolverine and Legacy.  These books bring back familiar faces of villains and heroes of the mutant universe.

Jon and I were both very excited about the books we picked and hope that you find some new reading material.

PS – Sorry to Justice League: No Justice – I referred to the enemy characters as “Doom Titans” but they are actually called “Omega Titans“.  That’s why we call the podcast Comics Misremembered.

Comics Misremembered Podcast 155

CM Podcast 142 – Milk Wars Specials

There is a war going on in comics and it isn’t Secret.  It’s not necessarily a Crisis either.  But it is a war that is being waged with dairy products.  It will be known as The Milk Wars (we mistakenly call it the Milkman Wars in the podcast).

The Milk Wars are a cross comic event between DC’s Young Animals imprint and the New 52Gerard Way (Doom Patrol) and Steve Orlando (Justice League of America) are the creators of this event. There will be 5 one shot comics that will be released in February 2018 that support it.

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The first salvo in the Milk Wars is The Doom Patrol/Justice League of America one shot.  It is written by Gerard Way and Steve Orlando and the art was supplied by ACO.  Cover by Frank Quitely.

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We give a review of this issue in the podcast along with Part 2: Mother Panic/Batman Special written by Jody Houser with art by Ty Templeton.

The war has just started and we are very excited about it.  Now is a great time to hop on board the Young Animals brand of comics and read something that is more than super heroes comics.

Your comics pal,

Jim

Comics Misremembered Podcast 142

 

CM Podcast 131 – Justice League Movie

The DC Cinematic Universe has been building up to this moment and it has arrived!  The Justice League movie has finally been released…

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If you read the reviews or watched a few review shows, you would have heard most of them say the this movie is garbage.  We here at Comics Misremembered would say that is not the case…mostly.  The movie has it’s terrible elements (which we cover in the podcast) but it also has some highly enjoyable moments too.

What we are saying is “Don’t Believe the Negative Hype“.  This movie is not perfect but it is a very good movie.  More so than what the reviewers are saying.  Listen to our podcast and see if we can’t convince you.

We also give a quick review on when the Justice League first formed in the comics.

Your comics pal,

Jim

Comics Misremembered Podcast 131