Welcome back to Comics Misremembered Podcast. We are continuing our discussion on The Immortal Hulk. We are going over the 2nd story arc (issues 6 – 10) which is called “The Green Door“.
Let’s reintroduce the creators of this grand tale:
Writer: Al Ewing
Artists: Jon Bennet, Lee Garbett, Martin Simmons
Inkers: Ruy Jose, Le Beau Underwood & Rafael Fonteriz
Colorist: Paul Mounts
We start with the Hulk still at large and now being pursued by The Avengers for all the destruction he has caused since his resurrection. The Avengers confront Bruce Banner…
A fight ensues and the Hulk almost gets away but Tony Stark pulls out his Ace in the Hole – The Helios Weapon and knocks the Immortal Hulk out.
The Hulk is turned over to the United States Hulk Operations AKA Shadow Base. This is a military organization run by the General Reginald “Reggie” Fortean – the premiere hulk hunter. He has plans for Bruce Banner and The Immortal Hulk but I don’t think Bruce or the Hulk will cooperate willingly with those plans…
We continue the story and review of The Immortal Hulk in the podcast.
***Warning – There are spoilers in the podcast!!***
Jon and I both agree that this is will ultimately be an epic story run and will have a profound impact on Hulk lore for years to come. We highly recommend that you pick up the 2 trades we reviewed and continue on with the story.
Also, I referenced A Tell-Tale Heart on the podcast specifically mentioning a animated short from the 1950s that was narrated by James Mason. I found the clip on YouTube! Here it is:
I am very excited about tonight’s podcast. We will be reviewing the first story arc of the Immortal Hulk # 1 – 5. The story arc is called “Or Is He Both?“
I am excited because I have been reading this in issues for the last 2 years and think it is one of the best written, drawn, inked and colored stories of the last few years. This is not hyperbole. When the creators of this book finish their run, it will go down as one of the best Hulk stories of all time. Jon has not read the series so I gave him “Or Is He Both?” and we discuss the book.
Writer: Al Ewing
Artist: Joe Bennet
Ink: Ruy Jose
Colorist: Paul Mounts
***SPOILERS IN THE PODCAST***
The story opens with a Carl Gustav Jung quote:
“There are two people in every mirror. There is the one you can see…
and there’s the other one.”
Jon and I explore some of Jung’s psychological concepts, what that quote means and how it is applicable to Dr. Bruce Banner and his relationship with the Hulk.
We go on to talk about the ties the second issue has with the Incredible Hulk TV show from the 70s and the unique story telling of issue three.
We end the podcast with Jon’s opinion of the first story arc and if he is as excited as I am to talk about the second story arc next week.
If you can’t find the original issues, Marvel has reprinted a good chunk of them and they are called The Director’s Cut – they feature some supplemental material that wasn’t in the original release.
We don’t spoil everything in the podcast but we will next week so go out and read this comic and join use for part 2 next week!
Avengers Infinity War Part 1 summary – Thanos had combined the Infinity Stones to make the Infinity Gauntlet and unleashed his sinister plan: wipe out half the population of the Universe.
Avengers Endgame – The movie starts out shortly after the events of Infinity War as Iron Man, Captain America and the other Avengers try to pick up the pieces of the biggest defeat they have ever encountered.
They try to right the wrongs that Thanos created but all their efforts lead to dead ends. Until Scott Lang AKA Ant-Man shows up with a plan so crazy it just might work!
Jon and I go over our thoughts on Avengers Endgame in the podcast. We don’t hold back so there are many spoilers in this review/critique of the movie. The ‘No Spoilers’ Embargo is over! We are giving everyone fair warning!
I can tell you that Jon and I both like this movie but it could have been better. We talk about plot points including a gigantic plot hole that really can’t be forgiven, but it’s not all bad though. This movie had several fun and exciting moments that make it worth recommending.
We also go over what we would have done differently to make this a better movie and what we are hoping for in future Avengers movie.
The movie is 3 hours long so we don’t cover absolutely everything that happens in this podcast. We stick to just the main story arc. There are still plenty of surprise for you in the movie.
Also, if you enjoyed this review, be sure the check out our take on Avengers Infinity War Part 1 which I am linking here:
We saw it a few weeks ago and decided to do a review of it this week. It is a continuation of the last Ant Man movie and references ties to Captain America: Civil War.
The Ant Man series (like the Guardians of the Galaxy Series) are more light hearted and funny movies than the other series and I enjoy that. Not every hero has to be grim and gritty. This movie continues with a mixture of levity and fast pace story telling.
The movie introduces a new character called Ghost. Ghost is more of an anti-hero in the film than a true villain or at least, a sympathetic villain. This is similar to how Ghost is portrayed in the comics and we go over that in the podcast.
We go over the movie with minor spoilers and give our verdict if you should go out and see it. We then get into so the Marvel Comics story lines it references and some of the Easter Eggs that we spotted.
We will be talking about the epic 16 part weekly Avengers storyline that begins with issue #675: No Surrender!
The story is so humongous in scope that it need 3 writers and 3 artist to tell it:
Writers: Mark Waid, Al Ewing and Jim Zub
Artists: Pepe Larraz, Paco Medina and Kim Jacinto
The only issues available so far are part 1 (675) and part 2 (676). We decided we wanted to get on this early so you don’t miss the boat on this story.
Jon has never been an Avengers fan so this is his first dip into their universe. In issue 675, we are introduced to Valerie Vector AKA Voyager…
You remember Valerie Vector! She was one of the founding members of the Avengers!! What do you mean you don’t remember her? Well, that is because she was just created this year and retconned (we explain what this term means in the podcast) into the Marvel Universe. This threw Jon for a loop because he thought she really was an older character. Besides introducing a golden age character we never met before, you also find out that the Earth has been stolen and it’s up to the Avengers to figure out who did it.
This is a great starting point for those that have never read this title and, with only 2 issues out, it seems that it will be a ripping yarn.
Here is a quick reference guide to the different Avengers teams that exist today:
Listen to the podcast and if you find it entertaining, then go out and pick up all 16 issues of the Avengers: No Surrender.
Welcome back to the podcast. We are doing a new comic review this week. We haven’t done one of these in a while and a few new books have come out. You know the drill: we read them, we review them and you either buy them or give a pass.
Marvel and DC crossover comic events are very rare nowadays but that was not always the case. In fact, 20 years ago was one of the best Marvel/DC comic events that ever happened and it was called the Amalgam Universe!
These Amalgam comics were the result of a battle between the Marvel and DC universes…
The champions fought each other in a limited series called DC Versus Marvel (or Marvel Versus DC depending on which issue you were buying). The heroes battles each other and it caused such a mess that is smashed the 2 universes together in 1 amalgamated universe.
Jon and I reflect back on the events that lead up to the Amalgam Comics to be published. This will be a 2 part podcast so tune in next week for part 2.
I have included the time code for each review, in case you want to jump ahead to that point but I recommend listening to the entire podcast for all the humor and political references.
*MAJOR SPOILER ALERTS*
We do revel some plot points in all the comics (not all the surprises but most). The surprise twist to Captain America was spoiled for me prior to reading it (Thanks, Internet!) but I also have to reveal it in order to give my take on “Why Captain America says what he says at the end of the comic” so don’t say we did not warn you!!
We like video games. So much so that Jon and I attended PAX East this year and saw a lot of great games that will be coming out through 2016. This got me thinking that there are many video games that feature superheroes and this would make for a good podcast.
We start off the show talking about the classic Konami arcade game – X-men: Children of the Atom. This was a standard ‘Beat’em Up‘ that features X-men characters beating up on well know villains like Juggernaut, The Toad and Magneto. What was unique about this game is that a special cabinet was made that allowed 6 people to play at once. Here is a pic of how it looked:
This is one of the first (if not only) arcade that allows 6 people to play at once. I had a great time playing this one back in the day.
WE spend some time going over the other great arcade games and eventually move on to some awesome console games like: Ultimate Spider-man, Marvel Ultimate Alliance and X-men Legends.
These games are great because they all have fantastic stories with dozens of Marvel characters (both heroes and villains). The more we talked about them, the more I want to go back and play the games.
We end the podcast talking about the greatest superhero video series: Batman – Arkham Series: Arkham Asylum, Arkham City, Arkham Origins and Arkham Knight. This series is the pinnacle of how all video games featuring heroes should be made.
Also, we are celebrating out 1 year anniversary of Comics Misremembered this month so thanks for listening and looking forward to another year of making podcasts!
This week is something old, something new, something borrowed and something blue. The Old is that we are reviewing Marvel’s 2007 Civil War miniseries. The New is the brand new Marvel’s Standoff: Welcome to Pleasant Hill comic that came out. The Borrowed is that Standoff will lead into Civil War II which is a retread of Civil War. Finally, The Blue is the blue curtain that holds back the new DC Comics Rebirth and it is not going to be fun.
Part 1: Civil War
Jon and I go over the 2007 Civil War miniseries – How a group of careless heroes’ prime time TV adventure leads to one of the biggest atrocities in the Marvel universe. This event triggers government action and starts the Super Hero Registration Act. Heroes choose sides: to register and work for the government or rebel and protect your own free liberties. It is a great story and we are looking forward to the movie.
Then we move on to Part 2…
Avengers: Standoff – Welcome to Pleasant Hill.
We both liked this stand alone comic and the surprises that it holds so instead of spoiling any of the stories, Jon and I talk about 2 TV shows that are similar in concept and theme to the comic.
Finally, we move on to part 3…
DC’s Rebirth– We dislike Rebirth. I mean, we really, really don’t like this. This project is so unnecessary and we both feel DC will turn off many long time fans of their comics. This will be the beginning of Reboot Blow Back. This is bad for comics and we explain why.
The final part in our John Byrne Trilogy – The Week 15 podcast part 3.
In this podcast, Jon and myself talk about Byrne’s work in the late 80’s into the 90’s.
Superman: Man of Steel – This was Byrne’s 1989 reboot of the Superman franchise. Jon and myself don’t really care for Superman so we both have not read it but we go over a couple of facts I found on the internet.
After a few years with DC, Byrne comes back to Marvel and takes over West Coast Avengers. The first change he makes is to call it Avengers West Coast and then goes no to write and draw on of the most epic Vision stories titled Vision Quest. We talk about the bizarre love triangle (apologies to New Order) between Vision, The Scarlet Witch and Wonder Man. Jon gives the best line in this discussion “Kids, practice safe hex.” This will one day become a T-Shirt. Bryne is also responsible for the creation of a 3rd Avengers team called The Great Lake Avengers.
We end this discussion with John Byrne’s independent work with Dark Horse. He creates John Byrne’s Next Men. I go over how this project was almost a DC then a Marvel property but it ultimately goes to Dark Horse.
If you want to see some of John Byrne’s excellent pencils and inks then check out this tumblr account – John Byrne Draws. It is not run by John Byrne:
Pssst! Hey, buddy! Did you know there is a war going on? Also, that this war is hush-hush therefore very secret? Well, now we let the cat of the bag and you know all about it!
That’s right – Marvel, the comic company that is terrible at keeping secrets has released their 2015 Secret War!! The main Secret War is great but there are like 763* Secret War Tie-In books. You don’t have the time or money to buy and read all those books so what are you going to do? Well, fret not, True Believer! Jim and Jon have done all the heavy lifting for you and have whittled down the tie-ins to 6 core books that are definitely worth reading.
Listen to the Comics Misremembered Week 12 podcast for all the low down on these books then run to your local comic shop (or download on your wireless device).
*My math is a little hazy so there could be less than this number.
Marvel will be relaunching their Universe once again this October and they have given everyone a sneak peek at the new titles and creative teams.
Jon and I go through the free previews guide and discuss what we know of the new writer and artist on each book and then if we plan on either buying it, testing it out for a few issues or skipping the book altogether or has we call it: Buy, Try or Deny!
I noticed that some books were missing this time around like Punisher, Black Widow, Rocket Raccoon and Groot. Also, some writers are gone like Rick Remender and Jonathan Hickman, who has written the Avengers these last few years and the architect of the new Secret Wars series. These changes don’t bode well with me.
I hope our wisdom and witty banter helps you make an informed decision on if you want to spend your hard earned dollars on any of these new books.
As always, we appreciate your feedback – What do you have to say about the new books? Any ones that are a definite buy? Any ones to avoid like the plague?
This podcast runs a little long but it is worth it. Enjoy.
If you are a Marvel fan, by now you have read or heard that Marvel will be restarting (otherwise known as Retconning) their Universe at the end of Secret Wars.
Jon and I will be previewing the new titles and creative teams in this week’s podcast but my question to you is:
“Is Retconning the Marvel Universe necessary?”
Here is what I think. Marvel is first and foremost a business and as a business, you need to improve sales year over year to show that you are profitable to your shareholders. If you do not hit these profit marks, then you have to try something different to get those customers back.
Marvel followed this formula with Marvel Now! back in 2012. This plan of action cancelled all the existing Marvel books and relaunched them with new creative teams and reformation of books like the Avengers and Uncanny X-men. For the most part, I liked the changes. I enjoyed the new creative teams’ takes on existing characters and there were some very good stories that came out of this change.
Now it is 2015 and Marvel is following the playbook again by cancelling all the books, reforming the comics teams and telling new stories with brand new creative teams. I understand why Marvel is doing this; new and old readers alike start on the ground floor with teams that are familiar but also fresh. I am looking forward to trying these new books but at the same time, I am like “When will this universe be destroyed and retconned again?”
Is there such thing as burn out from all these retcons? If you are a longtime DC reader, you know the pain of which I speak. You have seen your DC universe destroyed and rebuild some many times over that you have a hard time remembering which universe are you reading (Is the Crime Syndicate from World 2 or World 3 in this reboot?)
I guess the point I am getting at is that companies like Marvel and DC are more focused on the ‘bottom line’ that they are willing to sacrifice their character’s legacy. I feel that rebooting universe will lead to lazy story telling. In the past if you wanted to modernize a universe, you had keep the 30 – 50 years of history. That took some really creative story telling to build a bridge from the past to the future. Now, all you have to do is destroy that history and start anew. Where is the fun in that? It just doesn’t seem right. Are we all getting ret’conned’ with this new universe?