CM Podcast 256 – V for Vendetta (1982 comic) Pt. 1

The world is in a social crisis. COVID-19 is impacting everyone and we are all worrying about the future. Now seems like the perfect time to talk about a cheery subject – a totalitarian future were everyone’s freedoms are stripped away and there is no hope.

This is not entirely true. The is one hope – one man wages war on a despotic government to overthrow the tyrants and return freedom to the people. Hooray! We are going to be talking about V for Vendetta. A comic by writer Alan Moore and artist David Lloyd. It was originally published as a serial in a UK comic Warrior in 1982. DC converted it into a 10 issue miniseries in 1988.

I have been waiting for the perfect time to talk about this comic and now seems the best time. Jon and I share our history regarding reading this comic.

We talk about the history of the comic coming from Warrior and moving over to DC. The original David Lloyd art was in black and white and DC wanted it to be in color. Normally, this would not be a problem but Lloyd uses Negative Space technique for the black and white images and that will not look great with color. The colorists for the comic get around the problem.

We then get into world history of the UK in the 80s and how that would have a major influence on Moore and Lloyd on the creation of V and how their dystopian society looked.

We then get into talking about the actual comic (but not too much). We go over the first 2 issues. We learn about V, the main protagonist. Evey, a innocent by-stander that gets swept up by accident into V’s terrorist plot and finally, Mr. Adam Susan, face of the fascist regime that is controlling the UK.

Mr. Susan – everybody’s favorite wanker.

This podcast is a great place to start if you have never read V for Vendetta. We don’t talk too much about the comic in this podcast but we are giving you a chance to read it and come back in a week for part 2. Next week, we will get into all of the comic and do a comparison of the movie to the comic.

Some bloopers in the podcast: This is podcast 256, not 258. Alan Moore wrote Swamp Thing not Swamp Men and there are probably a dozen others but I am too tired to address them. This is why it’s called Comics Misremembered.

In the podcast, I promised a link to Superman Annual #11 (Here) AKA “For The Man Who Has Everything”. Moore explores the same themes of nationalism and fascism.

Jim

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CM Podcast 255 – The Walking Dead Season 10 Season Finale (Almost) (2020)

Last week, The Walking Dead aired episode 15 (the penultimate episode) of Season 10 and episode 16 will not air until Summer. Well, that is too long for us to wait to recap the season. There is a reason why we call part of the podcast “misremembered” – we don’t have the best memories. We knew we could not wait until Summer so we are going over what we saw so far in Season 10’s 2nd half.

We saw that Negan became a Whisperer and we met a new person called Princess.

Now does Negan remain a Whisperer? And can Princess be trusted? Well, these are question we will answer in the podcast. So, before we go any further…

***SPOILER WARNING ALERT***

We do go over all the details about Season 10 mid-season material so if you have not watched it yet, then don’t listen now.

If you have watched The Walking Dead up to Season 10 Episode 15 then you are all set. We are not spoiling anything. We are just recapping with you.

The other thing we do on the podcast is to review the Spoil The Season predictions we made in CM Podcast 249 (link here) and see how right (or wrong) we were based on the comic.

Here are some comic covers from material we did in Spoil The Season. What do they mean? We talk a little about the future storylines in the podcast.

Finally, if parts of the podcast sound like they were recorded on the back of a pick-up truck that has bad shocks while driving over a cobblestone road, that would be the fault of our Comics Misremembered Dog, Daisy. She was asleep at the start of the podcast but woke up towards the end and wanted to play by bumping into the mic stands. Sorry about that.

Jim

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CM Podcast 254 – Batman: Death in the Family (1988)

This week’s podcast was brought about by an answer to a twitter question: Without telling me exactly how old you are, tell me something about your youth?

Someone answered “I was alive when you had to call a 1-900 number to kill robin.”

Jon did not get the answer to the question. I immediately knew exactly what this person was saying. I started to tell Jon about the controversial Batman: Death in the Family story arc (Batman #426 – 429, 1988). The story was written by Jim Stalin (Infinity Gauntlet) with art by Jim Aparo (long time Batman artist) and inks by Mike DeCarlo.

Jon started to remember bits and pieces. I told him that this would be a great time to review that story on the podcast since I have the trade paperback of the story. So we both read it and here we are this week talking about a story that is about 28 years old.

I started to collect Batman comic just as this story was being published. I missed issue 426 but I was able to get the rest. About a month later, DC would collect all 4 issues in a trade paperback that had this cover:

Normally, collected trades for well known stories never came out shortly after they were published in issues in 1988. Some it is unusual that the trade came out as quick as it did and it was printed on regular paper stock, not the traditional high gloss stock.

It was a shocking event for 1988. There were very few deaths of heroes in comic up to this point. Killing Robin was as significant as killing Jean Grey and James “Bucky” Barnes. The other unique part of the death is that fans decided Robin’s fate. You would call one of 2 1-900 numbers: one to save Robin and the other to kill him. The media was all over this. When infamous issue #428 came out revealing Jason Todd (Robin) died, all the news channels were reporting it.

This story is an interesting time capsule. DC used the technology of the time (1-900 numbers) to get more interactive with fans and let them have a say in what happens. This type of event was never duplicated again (as far as I can remember).

We both read it again and had some good times remembering the good, the bad and the ugly regarding Batman: Death in the Family.

Jim

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CM Podcast 253 – Superman: Red Son Movie (2020)

Back in 2018, we reviewed the 2003 Elseworlds story, Superman: Red Sun which you can listen to here. Jon and I both really like the comic (except for the ending).

2 years later, we are reviewing the newly releases Warner Bros. Animated movie – Superman: Red Son. Which is written by long time comics scribe, J. M. DeMatteis. I looked at his IMDB page (which you can see here) and he has written quite a few TV episodes, including one of our favorite Justice League Unlimited episodes “For the Man Who Has Everything“.

J. M. DeMatteis does an excellent job at creating a teleplay based on the original comic material that retains all the great elements while streamlining the story so that people not familiar with comic can still enjoy it too.

Here is a clip of the movie to give you an example of the quality of animation:

The story and the animation are top notch. Jon and I go over the movie and talk about the differences between the comic and movie and if we like the changes.

Spoilers are ahead so we recommend watching the movie first and then coming back to listen to the podcast. Go watch the movie – it’s not like you got anyplace to go. We are all stuck inside at this point.

Jim

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CM Podcast 252 – Daredevil: Born Again (1986)

Welcome back to Comics Misremembered. This week we are going to talk about a story that people will argue that is Marvel’s greatest story ever. There are others that hold this story in reverence. We may make these people angry with our podcast.

Tonight, we are talking about Frank Miller and David Mazzucchelli’s seminal Daredevil story – Born Again. Originally published as Daredevil #227 – 231 in 1986 by Marvel.

I explain in the podcast how I came to buy the trade paper back for Born Again and why we are recording a podcast for it now. In reflection, it seems the perfect time to do a story review for this book.

Here is the cover of the trade that I bought.

For those that have never read or even heard of this story, let me give you some of the history. Frank Miller wrote and drew some of the defining moments of Daredevil in the 70s and 80s. He would leave Marvel and work on several Batman stories over at DC.

In 1986, Frank was invited back to write a new storyline for Daredevil to help boost it’s sales. Jim Shooter, editor-in-chief at the time, asked Frank if he would like to take a crack at the Scarlett Swashbuckler again. Frank said he would and so history is made.

Jon and I have never read this story until today. We both are not big Daredevil fans but we are familiar with the character of Matt Murdock and his family of characters. This story is wildly hyped, but does it live up to it? We tell you in the podcast. We also cover the religious symbolism that Miller and Mazzucchelli put into the story.

It’s a great story but one of the greatest? You be the judge. Oh, by the way – SPOILERS WILL BE IN THE PODCAST.

Jim

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CM Podcast 251 – New Comic Review

Welcome to Comics Misremembered New Comic Review. Jon and I find 4 titles that have come out in the past few weeks and we make recommendations. Usually these comics are independent titles that you may have missed. All of our recommendations are worth your time and we highly recommend reading them. Let’s get to talking comics this week…

The reviews are like this: Jon starts then I do the next and so on until we review 4 books. Got it! Great. Here is the order…

Wolverine #1 – Jon’s review

  • Writer: Benjamin Percy
  • Artists: Adam Kurbert and Viktor Bogdonavic
  • Publisher: Marvel

BANG! #1 – Jim’s review

  • Writer: Matt Kindt
  • Artist: Wilfredo Torres
  • Publisher: Dark Horse Comics

Mirka Andolfo’s Mercy #1 – Jon review

  • Writer: Mirka Andolfo
  • Aritst: Mirka Andolfo
  • Publisher: Image Comic

Tomorrow #1 – Jim review

  • Writer: Peter Milligan
  • Artist: Jesus Hervas
  • Publisher: Dark Horse Comics (Berger Books imprint)

There you have it. 4 great books with glowing reviews. Go pick them up as soon as possible because issue #2 for most of them will be out in a week or 2.

Jim

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CM Podcast 250 – Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle (1979)

Welcome to a very special edition of Comics Misremembered Podcast. We are celebrating our 250th podcast!! About a week ago I had no idea what we were going to do to honor this milestone.

We started kicking around ideas: Maybe do a countdown of our favorite storylines. We ditched this idea because we figured it would be too similar to past podcasts. Then changed it up to: review a great and celebrated storyline that is often over looked.

This brings us to the topic of this week’s CM Podcast. We will be reviewing the trade paperback of Iron Man: Demon in a Bottle. This is a collection Iron Man Vol.1 #120 – 128. The original story was published by Marvel in 1979.

The creators of this storyline are: Writer/Co-Plotter – David Michelinie, Artist – John Romita, Jr and Inker/Co-Plotter Bob Layton.

The title Demon in a Bottle comes from Iron Man #128 which is the final part of the overall story arc. It also has one of the most recognizable covers of all time created by Bob Layton.

Jon and I have never read this story in it’s original run. We had a great time going over it and we both think it is as relevant today as it was in 1979. I think the reason it is often overlooked on people’s Top Ten lists is because this is only the beginning of Tony Stark’s descent into alcoholism. In this story arc: Bethany Cabe points out that he has a drinking problem, helps him identify the problem and overcome it. Tony seems to have conquered his demons. Or has he?

If you continue reading after #128, Tony’s struggle become worse and he will eventually lose everything to drinking. It will be several years before he turns it all around to become sober and a success again.

It’s a terrific story that shows that no man is an island. You sometimes have more problems than you can handle and it is always a good idea to have your friends and family help you out when times are tough.

We compare Tony Stark of the 70s to how he behaves in the 2020s, we cover the infamous Javis resignation letter and discuss how they tired to use elements of this story in the Iron Man 2 movie to varying degrees of success.

Jim

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CM Podcast 249 – The Walking Dead Season 10 Mid-Season Premier (2020)

The Walking Dead is back again. It’s the middle of February and its the middle of Season 10. We get to see what happens to Carol and the gang. Remember, they were trapped in the cave after Carol stupidly ran in after Alpha and the gang tried to stop her.

On the podcast, we review the Mid-Season Premier episode. We discuss if it was in Carol’s character to wildly chase after Alpha. We then talk about what happens to everyone once they are trapped in the cave and how they worked out a solution to try and leave the cave.

We catch up with the Whisperers and see how Negan is doing. Is Negan trying to prove his worth to Michonne and Judith or did he show his spots and turn traitor and ally himself to Alpha.

*** SPOIL THE SEASON***

Lastly, we do what we do every premier episode on AMC’s The Walking Dead – We spoil the season (#SpoilTheSeason) by revealing what happened in the comic and see if the events that transpire in the comic align with the events in the show. We have been pretty accurate so far.

Jim

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CM Podcast 248 – Locke & Key Show (2020) Part. 2

We are back and discussing the rest of the Netflix series Locke & Key Season 1. A few weeks ago we started the conversation here. We are now picking up where we left off.

In this week’s CMPodcast, we cover the remaining episodes 4 – 10. Season 1 covers story elements that you can read about in the first 3 story arcs of the IDW Publishing comic: Welcome to Lovecraft, Head Games and Crown of Shadows. The original comic was written by Joe Hill with incredible art by Gabriel Rodriguez.

In this podcast, we compare the differences of the show to the comic. I noticed that overall, the show had a Young Adults feel and was not as dark as the comic. I feel that works best for the show so it gets a wide audience. Most of the changes actually work out better and we list most of them.

Jon and I discuss the different keys that are introduced and why they needed to create some brand new keys for the show. The ending has changed too. I liked this because it was a twist that both comic readers and first timers watching the show did not see coming. An interesting twist that sets up Season 2.

Jim

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CM Podcast 247 – Birds of Prey (2020)

Is it okay if I refer to the movie as Birds of Prey? Okay, for the rest of this post, the movie will be known as Birds of Prey.

If you don’t know, Birds of Prey has been going through an identity crisis over the last week since it has been released. Prior to February 7th, 2020, the movie was known as…

Birds of Prey and the Fantabulous Emancipation on One Harley Quinn

Here are some of the posters that were released for the movie…

After February 7th, I guess there was a group of people that did not know that Harley Quinn was in the movie. I can totally understand this. I mean, just look at those posters – they barely have Harley Quinn in any of them.

So the marketing geniuses at Warner Bros. Pictures decided to remame the movie…

Harley Quinn: The Birds of Prey

That is a perfect and succinct description in a title so there is no doubt that all your favorite characters from the DCEU are in this movie.

Now if this fails to draw the people into the theaters, then they are going with their 3rd revision of the title…

Batman and The Outsiders

Anyway, whatever you are calling this movie by the time of this post – we recommend that you run out and see this movie! It is a funny, fast paced, colorful crime heist that features some lesser know characters from the DC Universe (like Harley Quinn).

Jon and I review the movie – spoiler alert: WE BOTH LIKE IT ALOT! We talk about the original comic and the comic book versions of the characters and who well they translated to the movie. We give credit to Ewan McGregor for playing the not so well known, Black Mask and making it his own. We then reveal the Guardians of the Galaxy/Birds of Prey connection that you did not know existed until now and we end on the “nontroversy” of why its okay to have an all female cast of stars in a superhero movie.

Jim

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CM Podcast 246 – Locke & Key TV Show on Netflix (2020)

Back in 2016, we had been creating podcasts for over a year and we decided to cover the comic series Locke & Key that was created by Joe Hill and Gabriel Rodriguez. Here is the Lock & Key podcast (sorry about the audio. We were still understanding how mics worked.)

Since that time, Locke & Key – the TV show has been in production hell. Even before we recorded that podcast – the story has been created, cast, shot and cancelled by multiple movie studios and networks that I did not think it would ever get created.

Now, it is February 2020 and Netflix has released the first season of Locke & Key the TV Show! Here is the trailer…

If this trailer does not intrigue you, then don’t bother watching the show! It looks fantastic. Since it stated this past Friday 2/7, Jon and I have only been able to watch 3 of the 10 episode season.

In this weeks podcast, we talk about what we watched, the casting of the characters and if there was any changes between the comic and the show – for better or worse. Overall, we both liked these initial shows and we will be doing a follow up podcast on the first season in 2 weeks.

Jim

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CM Podcast 245 – The One (1985)

We’re back with another podcast covering comics and this week, we will be talking about a favorite of mine. A 6 issue miniseries called The One written and art by Rick Veitch.

The One was published under Marvel’s imprint called Epic Comics. Epic Comics was a creator owned comic that had the publishing support of Marvel Comics. We did a 2 part podcast on Epic Comics – they were known for telling mature, thought provoking stories that were different than the main stream superhero comics.

Here are some of the covers to The One…

I was a teenage in 1985 and I remember seeing the cover for issue #1 of the One (It’s a Tide parody) and wanting to know what this comic was all about.

Jon and I are reviewing the trade paperback that was self published through Rick Veitch under his imprint King Hell Publishing. The trade is in black and white but the original Epic Comics were in color.

The One is full of commentary on superhero comics, politics and religion. It was published before Watchmen, The Dark Knight Returns and I think most of Miracle Man. Rick explored what would our world really be like if governments really created superheroes. It is a fun story that Jon and I only scratch the surf of reviewing.

If you are interested in reading this comic, you can buy it digitally here through IDW Publishing. We highly recommend checking it out.

Jim

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CM Podcast 244 – New Comic Review

It has been awhile since our last new comic review and there have been plenty of new comics released in the past few months so we wanted to talk about 4 that we think are exceptional!

You know the format that Jon and I use:

  • We review the 1st issue of a new comic.
  • This comic has been release within the last 3 months.
  • We keep the reviews to just the first issue so not to spoil too much.
  • We want you to check out all 4 books because we think they are worth your time.

I do the first review and then Jon does the second. We switch off until we get through all 4 books. So enough of the explanations! Let’s me show you the comics we talk about in podcast…

Review #1 – A Jim Review

Iron Man 2020 #1

Writers: Dan Slott and Christos Gage

Artist: Peter M. Woods

Publisher: Marvel

Review #2 – A Jon Review

Punisher: Soviet #1

Writer: Garth Ennis

Artist: Jacen Burrows

Publisher: Marvel Max

Review #3 – A Jim Review

Far Sector #1

Writer: N. K. Jemisin

Artist: Jamal Campbell

Publisher: DC under Young Animals imprint

Review #4 – A Jon Review

Strayed #1

Writer: Carlos Giffoni

Artist: Juan Doe

Publisher: Dark Horse Comics

These are the 4 new series you should be reading, if you are not already. All have great creators with stories that will keep you interested.

Also, as a bit of bonus content. Here is a comparison of the 1984 Iron Man 2020 vs the Peter Woods’ Iron Man 2020. Which do you think is the the better design? I share my thoughts in the podcast.

That’s all for this week. See you in 7.

Jim

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CM Podcast – Crisis on Infinite Earths CW Crossover Conclusion (2019 – 2020)

If you listened to our CW Crisis podcast, you know that we were only able to watch the first 3 parts of this crossover because the shows went on a mini-hiatus. You can listen to that podcast here.

Well, that hiatus is over and the final 2 parts have air. We are here to talk about Crisis on Infinite Earths Crossover and look back at all 5 parts.

the 5 part crossover goes as follows:

Supergirl Part 1, Batwoman Part 2, The Flash Part 3, The Arrow Part 4 and finally, Legends of Tomorrow Part 5.

The final 2 parts explain the origins of The Anti-Matter Wave and how the Anti-Monitor came into existence. The remaining Paragons (our heroes) must make a final stand against the Anti-Monitor or face oblivion. Ultimately the heroes win…but at a cost!

One of these people will not show up for the following season.

Jon was disappointed at how episode 4 ended and he explains why but he feels there was a part in episode 5 that made up for it. I also explained to him why the thing he did not like was necessary and it made sense in the overall story arc.

We talk about the show and the many homages it pays to the original Crisis on Infinite Earth comic mini-series. The show even has Marv Wolfman in it – the guy who wrote the comic!

Crisis on Infinite Earths is not perfect but it is more than we both expected. In fact, we never would believe that we would be watching a TV show based on the Crisis comic. We salute you Marc Guggenheim and your writes for putting out some great shows and creating this miniseries.

Jim

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CM Podcast 242 – Sentient (2019)

Welcome back to part 2 of our exploration of TKO Studios and their comics. Last week we reviewed Sara and this week we decided to give another of their comics a shot – Sentient.

Sentient is written by Jeff Lemire with all the art done by Gabriel Walta. These two creators go together like peanut butter and jelly. The result is a very tasty Sci Fi story that will have you burning through the issues to see how it ends.

As we mentioned in last week’s podcast, TKO Studios has a very different business model when it comes to comics. They give you the entire story in one shot either with a Trade Paperback or 6 issues packaged together. You are expected to binge the comic. Jon and I enjoyed the book especially with art like this…

Gabriel Walta’s character and ship design are incredibly detailed. You can tell this was a real labor of love putting this together. Lemire’s plotting really matches Walta’s pacing.

In the podcast, we go over the story but keep it mostly spoiler free! We talk about what we liked and debate over other aspects. We also talk about other great Sci Fi stories that we thought about as we read it.

We highly recommend pick this book up as well as checking out other comics from TKO Studios. They are trying something different and it is working.

Jim

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