Back in 1992, DC comic creators had planned a story line where Clark Kent would finally marry Lois Lane after years of dating. This story was canceled at the last second due to a series of unfortunate events (which we chronicle in the podcast).
At the eleventh hour, the creative teams decide to go with a story line that was first suggested as a joke – “What if we kill Superman”?
This led to the infamous Death of Superman story line that ran for a few years through all 4 Superman books leading to the ultimate issue – Superman #75 where Superman finally dies…at least for a year or so. C’mon! No one stays dead forever in comics. 😉
Here is what Superman #75 looked like in it’s sealed black plastic bag and the actual cover.
Jump to 2018, WB video has just released a direct-to-video original movie called The Death of Superman. It is a adaptation of the multi-issue comic event that ends with Superman dying. (Spoilers!)
Jon and I have watched the movie, read the comic event and give a brief oral history on why it was a good idea to kill one of the most recognized comic creations.
Last week was the San Diego Comic Con where they held the 2018 Will Eisner Comic Industry Awards. So this week, Jon and I will be doing a review of the nominees and winners of some of the categories from the:
2018 Eisner Awards
Or as I like to call the podcast:
2 Ignorant Clods Butcher Names and Talk About Comics They Didn’t Read (For The Most Part).
Jon and I recognized a few of the creators and titles up for awards this year like: Monstress, Black Hammer and Hellboy.
Congratulations on all the winners and please don’t be too angry at us if we pronounced your name wrong. We will do better next year so keep up the good work!
Jon also goes over the 2 DC Movie Universe trailers that dropped: Aquaman and Shazam.
We saw it a few weeks ago and decided to do a review of it this week. It is a continuation of the last Ant Man movie and references ties to Captain America: Civil War.
The Ant Man series (like the Guardians of the Galaxy Series) are more light hearted and funny movies than the other series and I enjoy that. Not every hero has to be grim and gritty. This movie continues with a mixture of levity and fast pace story telling.
The movie introduces a new character called Ghost. Ghost is more of an anti-hero in the film than a true villain or at least, a sympathetic villain. This is similar to how Ghost is portrayed in the comics and we go over that in the podcast.
We go over the movie with minor spoilers and give our verdict if you should go out and see it. We then get into so the Marvel Comics story lines it references and some of the Easter Eggs that we spotted.
Welcome back! We continue the discussion of Frank Miller and Dave Gibbons’ dark political satire – Give Me Liberty.
We discussed Books 1 and 2 last week and we continue on with the remaining Books 3 and 4.
We start the discussion with Miller’s crude brand of humor and we discuss if he could get away with this type of humor today. We go on to discuss Martha’s relationship with Chief Wasserstein, the introduction of the Surgeon General, the dissolution of the United States and Moretti’s final fate.
Some of the material is a bit dated but overall, Jon and I did enjoy reading (and rereading) this miniseries again.
July 4th was a celebration of the birth of the United States. It is also the birthday of Martha Washington. Who is that? Why she is the main protagonist in this week’s review.
Since it is Independence Day, it seemed appropriate to do a review of Give Me Liberty a creator owned comic from writer Frank Miller and artist Dave Gibbons.
The comic was originally published by Dark Horse Comics in 1990 and it is a creator owned character for Miller and Gibbons. Give Me Liberty was published as a 4 issue prestige comic miniseries.
Give Me Liberty is dark political satire that takes place in a near future dystopia. (Remember, this came out in 1990 and starts in 1995 with the birth of Martha Washington).
I have my original copies of this series and read it when it first came out in 1990. Jon has never read the series until this week. We had so much to talk about that we had to break this podcast up into 2 parts.
Part 1 – We cover the first 2 issues. We talk about President Rexall and how he repealed the 20th amendment (I think I mistakenly called it the 26th amendment) so he can run for president for more than 2 terms.
As you can see from Dave Gibbons lovely art, President Rexall looks more like a dictator with each passing election.
Martha joins PAX (which is a combination of the Peace Corp and the Marines) and her first mission is the protect the Amazon Rain Forest from the corporate greed of Fat Boy Burgers. Here is another great image from the series…
There is a lot to talk about in this series and most of the issues in this comic are still relevant today. Listen to part 1 and come back next week for our conclusion to the series.
Preacher is back! Season 3 premiered last Sunday so that will be the focus of this week’s podcast.
Jon and I talk about the first episode: our first impressions, the new characters and then end the podcast with our thoughts on what will happen during the rest of the season based on the comic. Guess what? THERE ARE SPOILERS IN THIS PODCAST! If you have listen to previous podcasts, you know we talk about everything to listener be aware.
One of the topics of discussion is the selection of Jody on the show. Here is a comparison of the comic vs the show:
Now, Jon is a fan of the guy who they cast. I on the other hand am not a fan (but maybe I will change my mind by the end of the season). Listen to the podcast to hear my reasons.
I’ll tell you what I am a fan of…the new print ads for the show.
These are hilarious.
As always, Jon and I have a great discussion on the show and try to keep it entertaining.
SYFY premiered a new series focused on the history of Superman’s alien lineage called Krypton.
The first season recently ended so Jon and I have put this podcast together to talk about the good and bad of the show.
Before we get into it, let’s talk about the premise: The series takes place about 60 – 100 years before Krypton explodes launching Superman to Earth. The central character of the story is Superman’s grandfather, Seg-El.
Seg is a fun loving young person living his best life ever on Krypton only wanting to party all night and sleep all day. He is visited by a mysterious strange called Adam Strange(er) and he tells Seg that he will be related to one of the greatest superheroes of all time but he needs to rebel against the current Kryptonian theocratic political system in order for his great grandson to survive. The rest of the show features some twists and turns revealing many familiar faces from the comics and previous movies like this dude…
Krypton is a fun ride that takes you through Krypton’s history but needs to focus more on the characters and less on the chase. We discuss the good and bad on the podcast.
Superman Annual #11? That’s specific and yet random for a Comics Misremembered Podcast. Why are we talking about this one?
Glad you asked. Last podcast (159), I started to talk about Action Comics issue #1000 and I felt that it was a missed opportunity to tell a tale involving Superman to celebrate his life but also give new readers a little history on the character. It was a good issue but not a great issue. The stories did not live up to the milestone that Action Comics achieved, in my humble opinion.
Then I remembered reading Superman Annual #11 that came out in 1985. It was written by Alan Moore with art by Dave Gibbons (the creative team behind The Watchmen) and I remembered how much I liked that story.
Jon never read the comic, which is also know as “For The Man Who Has Everything“, so he read it and I reread it and we decided to talk about it and then start breaking it down as to why it is a great story. We also elaborate on why a story like this would be a great introduction to new Superman readers (even today).
We then breakdown how Alan Moore took stories that were happening in politics in the real world in 1985 and used this story as an allegory for Krypton. The messages Moore was trying to get across in the story are as relevant today as they will be for years to come.
Listen to the podcast and do yourself a favor and get a copy of this annual to read.
Remember that Flintstones episode where Fred gets the cops to sing the “Happy Anniversary” song to Wilma for their anniversary? What do you mean you don’t know what ‘Flintstones’ are? Well, go on Youtube and watch it. I’ll wait.
You’re back! Good. And you heard the song? Great. That song runs through my head every time someone mentions the word ‘anniversary’ and it’s happening now that I am going to talk about 3 recent anniversary issues:
Invincible Iron Man #600
Amazing Spider-man #800
Action Comics #1000
Jon and I reminisce about what we remember regarding anniversary issue back in the day and then we dive into talking about these 3 issues. The stipulation I give Jon on these comics is: If I was a new reader and this was my first issue reading about these characters, would I enjoy it?
I know that there are other anniversary issues that came out recently (Captain America #700 and Deadpool #300 to name a few) but these 3 issue illustrate what I think all milestone comics do: 1) the are the ending to an epic story line or 2) they are a starting on point to a new story line, direction or character (sometimes all 3).
I will tell you this regarding the 3 books: 1 is not very good, 1 is very excellent and 1 is a missed opportunity. Listen to the podcast to find out which is which.
Last week, Jon and I reviewed the Deadpool 2 movie on the podcast. During the movie, Deadpool puts together a team of mutants that he calls X-Force. One of those mutants was called Zeitgeist and I thought he was made up for the movie. Turns out, he was 1 of 2 mutants (Domino being the other) that was actually on the team X-Force. How did I forget this?!
In 2001, Editor in Chief – Joe Quesada wanted to inject some life into X-Force that was not doing so well in sales at the time. Enter Peter Milligan, writer of Vertigo’s Shade the Changing Man and Animal Man. He told Joe his crazy idea for the book – Get rid of the original X-Force and replace it with a whole new, all different X-Force. Full of brand new mutants. Joe agreed to let Peter tell his story and we got…
X-Force #116 – see that guy in the center of the cover that is doing a vault over the ram-like mutant. That is Zeitgeist! The mutant that can spit acid. And get this, he dies in the comic during the first story arc.
The comic will gain popularity and change it’s name to…
X-Statix! I read every issue of this comic during it’s run from 2001 – 2004 and like the wackiness of the new teams. Jon has never read this version of X-Force/X-Statix so I lent him a trade that I had that collected the first 5 issues of X-Statix. We dicuss this off beat mutant book by Peter Milligan and Mike Allred.
2 years ago we witnessed an R-rated comic book movie called Deadpool and it was good. We did a podcast on the the movie and more.
Last week, the highly anticipated sequel came out. Is it as good as the original or is it Deadpoo? We will tell you what we thought of… Deadpool 2!
We will tell you up front – this movie is as good as the original (even better, maybe). Being a Deadpool movie, you know there will be jokes, violence and swearing but this movie also as heart and compassion (which were in the original – if it ain’t broke, don’t fix it). Jon and I give our opinions on the movie and we try not to spoil too much on what makes it great.
In 2009, Mark Waid thought to himself “What if Superman was a complete bastard?” and this was the impetus for his original series – Irredeemable.
Irredeemable was written by Mark Waid with art by Peter Krause and it was published by BOOM! Studios. It ran 37 issues and it was a psychological profile on “What if a man with Superman’s powers used them for evil instead of good and why would someone do that?”
The main character of the story is a super powered hero turned ultimate villain by the name of The Plutonian and the comic starts at the point of the Plutonian suddenly behaving very violently and evil and the rest of the superhero community has to find out what happened to him. This comic starts at full throttle and never lets up.
Jon has never read the series so I gave him the trade of the first 4 issues and this is what we discuss in the podcast.
In our last New Comics Review, we did mostly independent titles so we decided to do some Marvel and DC new comics this time around.
There are 4 reviews this week and here are the titles:
Writer Jason Aaron with Artist Ed McGuinness for Avengers #1 (Jim review)
Writer Charles Soule with Artist David Marquez and Paulo Siqueira for Hunt for Wolverine (Jon review)
Writer Tom Taylor with Artist R. B. Silva for Adamantium Agenda (Jon review)
Writers Joshua Williamson, James Tynion and Scott Snyder with Artist Francis Manapul for Justice League: No Justice (miniseries) (Jim review)
The downside of some of these books is that Marvel and DC are renumbering their flagship titles again (Marvel’s Avengers #1 and DC will relaunch Justice League at the end of No Justice as a #1) but the creators on these books and the stories that they are telling make this change a little easier to swallow.
The upside is that Avengers #1 is a great starting point for non-comic readers who saw Avengers: Infinity War and want a jumping on point for the comics. Same thing for Justice League: No Justice. Both books introduce you to the core members of each team and show you what else is hiding in the shadows of their perspective universes.
The Wolverine books bring you up to speed on what has happen to Wolverine since the evens of Death of Wolverine and Legacy. These books bring back familiar faces of villains and heroes of the mutant universe.
Jon and I were both very excited about the books we picked and hope that you find some new reading material.
PS – Sorry to Justice League: No Justice – I referred to the enemy characters as “Doom Titans” but they are actually called “Omega Titans“. That’s why we call the podcast Comics Misremembered.